Not By Works
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I replied to part of this earlier, now I'm addressing the other part of your response now.
If a man has faith and no works to go along with it, he is a FAKE CHRISTIAN. That kind of faith, head knowledge, is the same faith all fake professors of Jesus Christ have, it is not LEGITIMATE faith, it's head knowledge.
That's the whole point of James 2, what demonstrates true faith - works. I can't stress this enough, James 2 shows the difference between real faith and head knowledge.
If a man has faith and no works to go along with it, he is a FAKE CHRISTIAN. That kind of faith, head knowledge, is the same faith all fake professors of Jesus Christ have, it is not LEGITIMATE faith, it's head knowledge.
That's the whole point of James 2, what demonstrates true faith - works. I can't stress this enough, James 2 shows the difference between real faith and head knowledge.
I assume that you believe there are two churches and two different gospels. One church being flesh descendants of Israel, these are saved by grace and keeping the law. Then there's another church, those Jews and Gentiles after Christ. These are saved by faith only and no law keeping.
Abraham saw the death burial and resurrection of Christ when he was on his way to offer up Isaac. Christ dwelt in the church in the wilderness and they drank from that Rock. The Old Testament is FULL of prophecies of the death burial and resurrection of Christ. How can we say that they didn't know about it, and even look forward to it the same way we look back at it.
It doesn't matter if a person lived before Christ or after Christ, it is Christ and Christ alone that gives salvation.
Abraham saw the death burial and resurrection of Christ when he was on his way to offer up Isaac. Christ dwelt in the church in the wilderness and they drank from that Rock. The Old Testament is FULL of prophecies of the death burial and resurrection of Christ. How can we say that they didn't know about it, and even look forward to it the same way we look back at it.
It doesn't matter if a person lived before Christ or after Christ, it is Christ and Christ alone that gives salvation.
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To be honest, sticking with the clear reading of the word...I'm not convinced. Has God chosen not to know certain things, future decisions, until man decides?
What about the Nineveh? Did God know that they would repent and in turn He would not destroy them in forty days? He declared He would destroy them in forty days? Did God lie, or simply change His mind based upon their response to the message?
What about the Nineveh? Did God know that they would repent and in turn He would not destroy them in forty days? He declared He would destroy them in forty days? Did God lie, or simply change His mind based upon their response to the message?
Believers know it is God who saves us.
That is a separate issue from appearing to not have been made a new creature before man.
You can not prove to me you are saved John. It is impossible.
But you can certainly behave in ways which make you look like you don't know God or love Him.
A member of Christs body which is VOID of any sort of work of righteousness, a loveless walk, would before man who can not see the heart.... seem to be a faker...
You are wrong. The claim is not what you think it is.
Read those quotes. You are imputing false beliefs to others and rejecting proper reproof.
Lol, Abraham believed in the d,b,r of Christ? You know that was a mystery hid from everyone until it was fulfilled. Not even His disciples knew about it. We can look back and see the pictures, but only with the knowledge of the NT.
Nobody was "looking forward" to the cross. That's a man made doctrine. They were looking forward to a Messiah, a deliverer, but the cross was hidden.
Nobody was "looking forward" to the cross. That's a man made doctrine. They were looking forward to a Messiah, a deliverer, but the cross was hidden.
So you are born again by grace through faith, which I take it your faith allows you to see the Kingdom of God, spiritually of course. I always viewed 'spirivision' as interesting since it is written, in Luke 24:39, Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
That bread definitely has the aroma of the Pharisees leaven with looks of promise.
While 'faith without substance' is hope seeing that hope with substance is faith.
Thus, it is written, "for we are saved by hope:" not by our faith since faith comes by hearing and hearing the Son of God.
Thus it is written, "but hope that is seen is not hope:" so if faith comes by hearing the word of God then for what a man sees, why does he yet hope
That bread definitely has the aroma of the Pharisees leaven with looks of promise.
While 'faith without substance' is hope seeing that hope with substance is faith.
Thus, it is written, "for we are saved by hope:" not by our faith since faith comes by hearing and hearing the Son of God.
Thus it is written, "but hope that is seen is not hope:" so if faith comes by hearing the word of God then for what a man sees, why does he yet hope
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Agreed. But one can appear to have been saved, but is lost. One can go to church, pray, do good works and be lost. What we see in the flesh has no bearing on the reality. Likewise, one may choose not to live according to the Spirit but after the flesh, and this person is saved. We are never to judge a man's salvation.
We know it's not that because 'believes' in John 3:16 is a present tense verb in the participle mood.
The person in John 3:16 is presently 'believing' in Him.
So the condition that varies must be whether or not the presently believing person will always be presently believing in Him.
The person in John 3:16 is presently 'believing' in Him.
So the condition that varies must be whether or not the presently believing person will always be presently believing in Him.
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