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To be honest, I still struggle in the area of assurance of salvation and I have prayed about it and asked for his help. I may have a form of OCD that involves religion. I used to feel like I had to confess my sins before taking communion and not just confess in my mind but out loud. I know that may sound strange. I think my questioning of salvation has roots as well. I have read many bible verses and it has helped some and at times I have been amazed thinking about some things, but I still get anxiety over it. Still I know there is a plethora of Scripture about trusting God.
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in my testimony
i knew god saved me completely
but legalism being forced in me made me question if i was really saved, not that god failed, but that i did. And it caused me to walk away for 5 years,
thats why i am so against legalism of any kind, especially when it comes to salvation, but even lordship issues, which demand rule following not serving others
in my testimony
i knew god saved me completely
but legalism being forced in me made me question if i was really saved, not that god failed, but that i did. And it caused me to walk away for 5 years,
thats why i am so against legalism of any kind, especially when it comes to salvation, but even lordship issues, which demand rule following not serving others
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Finding a church that focused on grace, god as an abba father, with a major focus on serving others, but also has discipleship, where we can come and confess our sins and gain healing from them, not condemnation because we do them,
i have witnessed more people find victory over sin, and less people walk away from god than i ever did in my church growing up,
i have witnessed more people find victory over sin, and less people walk away from god than i ever did in my church growing up,
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I witnessed people who struggles with anger or lying or what many deem small sins, and being told not to worry about it, and the same people, who said do not worry about it, judge a person struggling with sexual sin, amd tell them to stop or else, and when it is suggested they have tried, and how. They say just obey god, he said don't do it so don’t! If you have faih in God you will stop, if you do ‘t you must not have faith, and i wonder if your even saved.
then i saw close friends who also struggled but hid those sins, for fear of judgment, and even others, who seemed like rock hard believers walk away finding out they had a secret life of sexual issues, and never came forward, because of same issue
this is dangerous, it is not christlike, and it leads people to hide son and water down the law. Thinking they are alright because they do not murder, or cheat on their wife. When in reality, they have their own sins, they just refuse to admit it.,
then i saw close friends who also struggled but hid those sins, for fear of judgment, and even others, who seemed like rock hard believers walk away finding out they had a secret life of sexual issues, and never came forward, because of same issue
this is dangerous, it is not christlike, and it leads people to hide son and water down the law. Thinking they are alright because they do not murder, or cheat on their wife. When in reality, they have their own sins, they just refuse to admit it.,
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Point them to god, And love, no matter what.
we actually have a leader who was a practicing homosexual for years, what helped him overcome was the love that was showed him, sometimes we just have to work things out ourselves, and of course, if discipline happens, it must be done in love as scripturally directed.
imagine if this person was judged by legalism, he never would have found christ, and never would have found healing.
sadly, many churches want to be more like the pharisee than the disciples
we actually have a leader who was a practicing homosexual for years, what helped him overcome was the love that was showed him, sometimes we just have to work things out ourselves, and of course, if discipline happens, it must be done in love as scripturally directed.
imagine if this person was judged by legalism, he never would have found christ, and never would have found healing.
sadly, many churches want to be more like the pharisee than the disciples
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AMEN, I also knew GOD saved me completely, the NIGHT I was SAVED after my third Attempt at Suicide in a week, the last week of 1977.
We moved a lot to different small towns with few Churches to choose from, so much so that I got used to determining whether they taught like we believed. I would first look at their Doctrinal Statement of Faith, Then I would write down questions to ask a PASTOR about things that were not revealed in a Doctrinal Statement. Then I would make an appointment to go interview the Pastor, to determine, if I would be COMFORTABLE with what they taught from the Pulpit, before I went to CHURCH THERE.
As a result we attended a wide variety of OSAS Churches that taught Lordship Salvation, but nothing like you described. PLEASE EXPLAIN, what you meant, because it is totally foreign to me. The Lordship Salvation was always totally based on Rom. 10:9-10, with almost NOTHING ADDED.
I attended since I was saved:
2 Evangelical Free Churches
2 Bible Fellowship Churches
1 Independent Baptist Church
1 Southern Baptist Church
4 Community Bible Teaching Churches
1 Evangelical Lutheran Church
1 Grace Brethren Church
All of them believed in OSAS and Lordship Salvation, but NONE OF THEM believed what you experienced.
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That does not mean i was wrong
i attended hope baptist church, many of the people i grew to respect suddenly dissapeared, and i came to find out why, my dad was a deacon of that churxh for years, and his self righteous attitude against people who commited certain sins makes me sick to my stomach today,
it was not in every baptist church i went to, but no matter what churxh i went to that taught lordship, they tended to lead to legalism
god wants to be our abba first, thats why we can go to him not in the spirit of fear but with a sound mind no matter what we have done,
yes he is lord, but first he is poppa,
i attended hope baptist church, many of the people i grew to respect suddenly dissapeared, and i came to find out why, my dad was a deacon of that churxh for years, and his self righteous attitude against people who commited certain sins makes me sick to my stomach today,
it was not in every baptist church i went to, but no matter what churxh i went to that taught lordship, they tended to lead to legalism
god wants to be our abba first, thats why we can go to him not in the spirit of fear but with a sound mind no matter what we have done,
yes he is lord, but first he is poppa,
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Saving faith is very simple in the end for sure.... maybe that is why so many miss it?
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You know....honesty with who we really are (I.E. our nature) and the fact that a cursory look at humanity and what God has to say about us leags one to conclude that we are a mess and we do indeed need intervention (I.E. to be born again by faith)......Like Peter said....TO WHOM SHALL WE GO.......NO ONE, NO THING, NO RELIGION, NO WORKS, NOTHING can save but JESUS!
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