Not By Works

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Melach said:
honestly i have no idea where we came from and where we are going and what is going on lolz

i just dont get it. i blame theologians for this over complicated. im too slow to understand the regeneration to grace to faith system. just believe the gospel and you're in how about it
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Religion loves to over complicate the simplicity found in Christ which is......He that believes on the Son is having everlasting life.....SIMPLE FAITH is what saves a man!
 
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dcontroversal said:
Religion loves to over complicate the simplicity found in Christ which is......He that believes on the Son is having everlasting life.....SIMPLE FAITH is what saves a man!
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I know what is the point of the splicing and dicing.... everything just becomes less and less clear and more and more complicated.:(
 
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dcontroversal said:
Amen....THROUGH FAITH is clear....DIA!!
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Dia with the genetive indicates the agency or means by which an act is accomplished. Not the person or thing that performs the action, Mr. Greek scholar

There has to Be something or someone usuing an agency or means. of the act as well as an agency or means. Therefore faith alone does not save. Gods grace saves through the agency or means of faith
 
Macabeus said:
To win an argument? No. I see false doctrine being taught here. Saved by grace not of works is not false. Not at all. But teaching that If someone teaches loving obedience to Christ, they are denying Romans 4:4-5 is a bad sign

A. Person a- John wrote everyone who is born of God keeps His commandments

Person bMy bible teaches that the one who does not work is justified

Person a. Paul told Titus to tell believers to be zealous of good works

Person bListen Buddy, we don’t need any of that works salvation peddling around here


Person a. The believer will certainly persevere because God keeps them

Person b. You are a salvation maintainer

Etc
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Like I stated it never happened and this post does not state what you have interpreted it to say at all!!

https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-3947272
 
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