Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Those who do not love and serve.
And what do those who love and serve by nature do?
They are lawful
They did not need the law. They by nature practiced good deeds,
I think this is the disconnect here
One side says we need the law to guide,
The other side we need to stop looking at self (the flesh) and look to love and serve, and that is our guide.
And what do those who love and serve by nature do?
They are lawful
They did not need the law. They by nature practiced good deeds,
I think this is the disconnect here
One side says we need the law to guide,
The other side we need to stop looking at self (the flesh) and look to love and serve, and that is our guide.
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Be careful 
He was talking about the whole Law not just the 10 commandments. Earth is still here right?
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
He was talking about the whole Law not just the 10 commandments. Earth is still here right?18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Till heaven and earth pass
Anyone who does not obey every word is cursed, you can keep the whole law, yet if you stumble in one point, your done (guilty)
Oh thats right, you do not like those passages, sorry.
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“But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach” (Romans 10:6-8)
The apostle is quoting Deuteronomy 30:14, “But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.” The promise of redemption made by the Old Testament prophets was a part of every Jew’s creed. It was in their mouth and in their heart, so that the tongue may make confession unto salvation. Paul pointed his fellow Jews to salvation by the faith that was in their mouth and in their hearts, instead of by works of the law for which there is no salvation.
Deut 30:14 ends by saying "DO IT."
The apostle is quoting Deuteronomy 30:14, “But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.” The promise of redemption made by the Old Testament prophets was a part of every Jew’s creed. It was in their mouth and in their heart, so that the tongue may make confession unto salvation. Paul pointed his fellow Jews to salvation by the faith that was in their mouth and in their hearts, instead of by works of the law for which there is no salvation.
Deut 30:14 ends by saying "DO IT."
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Amen! Romans 10:5 - For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, "The man who does those things shall live by them." 6 But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down from above) 7 or, " 'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
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Amen! Romans 10:5 - For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, "The man who does those things shall live by them." 6 But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down from above) 7 or, " 'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
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Paul is saying that you don`t have to bring Christ down from Heaven or raise Him up again from the dead because the righteousness is right here. What most Christians don`t know is that Paul is taking this teaching from the Law which he references throughout the epistles.
Deuteronomy 30
11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Romans 6
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
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on page 12, post #279, someone asked you if it was a sin to unintentionally not keep the Sabbath.
you said " yes, willfully or unintentionally .
so, there you are. your own words, saying that you think it is a sin to not keep the Sabbath.
i'll be waiting on my apology . actually . I think you owe me several , as many times as I have caught you lying and flip-flopping on the your theology.
on page 12, post #279, someone asked you if it was a sin to unintentionally not keep the Sabbath.
you said " yes, willfully or unintentionally .
so, there you are. your own words, saying that you think it is a sin to not keep the Sabbath.
i'll be waiting on my apology . actually . I think you owe me several , as many times as I have caught you lying and flip-flopping on the your theology.
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