Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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eternally-gratefull

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Tell me where every possible action was ever coverer. With love and the spirit and the example of the life of Christ and the wisdom and knowledge we receive from studying to show ourselves approved, we don't need specifics do we? Do we need God to think for us also? At some point we would have no point.
So tell me

What should i do, look to the law for guidance, or look to christ, who loved me and because of that love, empowered me to love others, and by nature of loving others, i will by nature not break commands when i am in an act of loving?

And when i fail to love and put self first (sin) do i need the law to tell me what i should already know? That i put self first, and this sin led me to break other commands, if i focus on just the commands, will i not miss the root of sin whcih caused me to break them in the first place? And thus be in danger of never finding victory? Or thinking i have when i have not?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You are not making sense.

Where does Genesis 15 say Abram was saved?
Vs 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.

Righteousness is a legal term, it means even though abraham was guilty, his sins were not charged against him, he was declared righteous,
 

DeighAnn

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I am saying paul said if your going to follow one command, you are indebted to follow every one,

Those are pauls words. Not mine
I am not accusing you, I am hunting for a tiny bit of information I thought you might be able to provide for me so, Different question. Do you happen to know if when Paul was teaching follow one law, follow all laws, if he was referring to the law of Moses or the Law of the kingdom of God?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You apologize to me one minute and then tell me off the next :rolleyes: You had me thinking I was wrong about you briefly.
Yep, you are still complaining

See the problem is not me


You still misjudge me, thats on you
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What if I tell them to follow this one?

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
That is not part of the law

But it is god telling us where to focus our minds, in bearing each others burdens, not the letter of the law.

If the letter of the law was sufficient, god would not need to tell us things like love, bear each o5ers burdens, seek after things of the spirit

He would just tell us, obey he law look to it, focus on it, and you will be ok.

He does not do that, because the law can not do that, that was not the laws purpose, you said that yesterday, (it is a schoolmaster to lead us to christ) why don't you believe what you say
 

PS

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Vs 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.

Righteousness is a legal term, it means even though abraham was guilty, his sins were not charged against him, he was declared righteous,
So my questions was, is being righteous the same as being saved, or is salvation thrust upon us whether we want it or not.

(I'm trying to make you think it through as it has implications in other areas.)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I am not accusing you, I am hunting for a tiny bit of information I thought you might be able to provide for me so, Different question. Do you happen to know if when Paul was teaching follow one law, follow all laws, if he was referring to the law of Moses or the Law of the kingdom of God?
Can you give an example?

And note

Commiting adulty is sin, we should not break that command, my point is, how do we follow this law? By following the letter, or by some other means?
 

Heyjude

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Should I assume that you ignore the questions and the scriptures I ask because you hate the scripture I remind you of, or would that be unsubstantiated slander?
Hi PM, I am not in this food fight, but slander is the spoken word and libel the written word.. Just sayin….
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So my questions was, is being righteous the same as being saved, or is salvation thrust upon us whether we want it or not.

(I'm trying to make you think it through as it has implications in other areas.)
If your not declared rightious (a term we called justied)

We are not saved,

Whoever is justified (declaired righteous) is saved.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Not at all. You live up to my expectations. It`s just that your phony apology decieved me for a minute. Hurt my feelings a little when I saw it for what it was.
What appology are you talking about?

Get over yourself dude. If i make a mistake i will apologize, it does not mean i will stop showijg what i believe, no matter how much that belief offends you.
 

RickStudies

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Even the wicked can be saved if they believe in God and accept His gift of salvation.

I was looking for something in Gen. 15 that said Abram was saved. I cannot see it.
Saved isn`t part of the equation until the Savior came.
 

PS

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If your not declared rightious (a term we called justied)

We are not saved,

Whoever is justified (declaired righteous) is saved.
You are preaching salvation by works.

Justification is not earned through our own works; rather, we are covered by the righteousness of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:5).
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You are preaching salvation by works.

Justification is not earned through our own works; rather, we are covered by the righteousness of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:5).
Once again, you have an odd perspective

I mean how can god declaring us righteous based on NOTHING we do, have anything to do with works,

Good day sir,
 

RickStudies

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What appology are you talking about?

Get over yourself dude. If i make a mistake i will apologize, it does not mean i will stop showijg what i believe, no matter how much that belief offends you.
Its post 6712. So meaningless to you that you forgot it already.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Correct. So Abram was not Saved. Our friend says he was. I'm calling him out.
And your wrong

Abraham was just as saved as i was, as was moses (who appeared with christ before he dies)

You are the one who is wrong my friend.