Trump Stands By Israel

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kaylagrl

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I knew the two mutts would be howling after a presentation of the process that led to Europeans taking over Palestine - totally expected as brainwashed EV/dispensationalists.

I knew the two anti-Semites would post every canard out there. Brainwashed. No one took over Israel, it belongs to God and He deeded it to the Jews. They were exiled and brought back again by the hand of God. If he used Europeans to do it, then He did. Nothing happens without His notice.
 

Locutus

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There were no "canards" posted - that Balfour Org site presents the history of what happened and the actual writings of those involved.

That is not a white nationalist site.
 
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kaylagrl

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There were no "canards" posted - that Balfour Org site presents the history of what happened and the actual writings of those involved.

That is not a white nationalist site.

The Jews started the war on Germany first? Canard. Rothchilds? Canard. USS Liberty? Canard. So one wasn't, yay for you.
 
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Susanna

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I’m not smart enough for this debate, but I know a thing or two about Israel and I’m proud to say I’ve served with some of their great female soldiers.
 

Locutus

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The Jews started the war on Germany first? Canard. Rothchilds? Canard. USS Liberty? Canard. So one wasn't, yay for you.
Rothchilds were involved - as for the forment that the Jews started after Hitler got elected seems to have an basis in fact.
 

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I’m not smart enough for this debate, but I know a thing or two about Israel and I’m proud to say I’ve served with some of their great female soldiers.
I'm just digging through the history presented on the Balfour Org and posted snippets which does not tally with the revised history that is generally promoted nowadays.

The information presented states that the indigenous population (mainly of Arab descent) were not given consideration in the "deal" - the settlement of Jewish immigrants is not unlike the white wave of immigrants taking over Canada, Australia and the US.
 
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kaylagrl

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I’m not smart enough for this debate, but I know a thing or two about Israel and I’m proud to say I’ve served with some of their great female soldiers.
Wasn't "Wonder Woman" in the IDF?
 
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kaylagrl

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Rothchilds were involved - as for the forment that the Jews started after Hitler got elected seems to have an basis in fact.

Rothchilds rule the world, canard. Blame the Jews/Rothchilds same difference. Hitler made the first move against the Jews. They responded with a boycott. Surely you're not trying to suggest they brought the Holocaust on themselves? Hitler stated his love for the Jews in Mein Kampf, HE made the first move.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm just digging through the history presented on the Balfour Org and posted snippets which does not tally with the revised history that is generally promoted nowadays.

The information presented states that the indigenous population (mainly of Arab descent) were not given consideration in the "deal" - the settlement of Jewish immigrants is not unlike the white wave of immigrants taking over Canada, Australia and the US.
They were exiled from their land. It was and has always been theirs.
 
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UnderGrace

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Israel was conquered by Rome, they were not exiled, they were killed, held captive or they fled.
 

Locutus

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Israel was conquered by Rome, they were not exiled, they were killed, held captive or they fled.
Not only that, when they were taken into captivity one of the prophets wrote/spoke of their return.

There is no mention of return in the new testament neither has a prophet risen up in the succeeding centuries proclaiming a return to the land.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Israel was conquered by Rome, they were not exiled, they were killed, held captive or they fled.
this has to be one of the dumbest things offered yet to 'prove' the Jews no longer matter to God

Israel, under Roman occupation were not held captive...further, where would you like the Jews or any other peoples occupied by Rome to go when the then known world was under Roman authority...save of course the picts north of Hadrian's wall :LOL:

do you have any clue, any clue at all, how things worked when Rome occupied a country?

apparently not...don't ask me or I will tell you and make this ridiculous thing you state even worse

better yet, I'll post it for those who actually might not know but yet would like to expand their knowledge
 

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Netan-yahoo heads back to Yisrael after attack - The Empire Strikes Back:

JERUSALEM (AP) — The Latest on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (all times local):

9:40 p.m.

Gaza militants fired at least 10 rockets toward Israel after an Israeli airstrike destroyed the offices of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, as air raid sirens wailed across southern Israel.

Israeli media report at least 10 missiles fired toward the southern Israeli town of Sderot late Monday. There are no immediate reports of casualties.

The latest escalation of violence began early Monday when a rocket fired from Gaza struck a home in central Israel, wounding seven people. Israel has vowed to respond “forcefully,” raising the prospect of a fourth war between Israel and Gaza’s militant Hamas rulers.

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8:45 p.m.

Hamas’ radio station says an Israeli airstrike has demolished the offices of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.

The airstrike took place moments after Israel fired a pair of warning shots at the office, a tactic that Israel uses to get people to evacuate targeted buildings.

There were no immediate reports of casualties.

Haniyeh had gone into hiding earlier Monday, fearing retaliation after a rocket fired from Gaza struck an Israeli home and wounded seven people in central Israel.

In a written statement earlier Monday, Haniyeh said the Palestinian people “will not surrender” and its militant factions “will deter the enemy if it exceeds the red lines.”

Breaking news:

https://www.apnews.com/c81bf3102156432cb59102a60e2ec00b
 
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7seasrekeyed

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following is a VERY brief understanding of Roman rule and history in Israel...read as much or as little as you want by clicking on 'source'

The history of the Jews in the Roman Empire traces the interaction of Jews and Romans during the period of the Roman Empire (27 BC – AD 476). Their cultures began to overlap in the centuries just before the Christian Era. Jews, as part of the Jewish diaspora, migrated to Rome and Roman Europe from the Land of Israel, Asia Minor, Babylon and Alexandria in response to economic hardship and incessant warfare over the land of Israel between the Ptolemaic and Seleucid empires. In Rome, Jewish communities enjoyed privileges and thrived economically, becoming a significant part of the Empire's population (perhaps as much as ten percent).[1]

The Roman general Pompey in his eastern campaign established the Roman province of Syria in 64 BC and conquered Jerusalem in 63 BC. Julius Caesar conquered Alexandria c. 47 BC and defeated Pompey in 45 BC. Under Julius Caesar, Judaism was officially recognised as a legal religion, a policy followed by the first Roman emperor, Augustus. Herod the Great was designated ‘King of the Jews’ by the Roman Senate in c. 40 BC, the Roman province of Egypt was established in 30 BC, and Judea proper, Samaria and Idumea (biblical Edom) were converted to the Roman province of Iudaea in 6 AD. Jewish-Roman tensions resulted in several Jewish–Roman wars, 66-135 AD, which resulted in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Second Temple and institution of the Jewish Tax in 70 and Hadrian's attempt to create a new Roman colony named Aelia Capitolina c. 130.
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Rome invaded, conquered and operated by a well tuned politcal system that sought to rule with the compliance of those conquered or if not, then under the Roman system, which at that time, was the most politcal in the sense we might understand it, order in effect

following here, is the after affects of Roman occupation and the rejection of Christ as their Messiah...also brief but better than nothing

After the Jewish-Roman wars (66–135), Hadrian changed the name of Iudaea province to Syria Palaestina and Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolinain an attempt to erase the historical ties of the Jewish people to the region.[10] In addition, after 70, Jews and Jewish Proselytes were only allowed to practice their religion if they paid the Jewish tax, and after 135 were barred from Jerusalem except for the day of Tisha B'Av.

The diaspora
Main article: Jewish diaspora
Jewish ritual objects depicted in 2nd century gold glass from Rome
Many of the Judaean Jews were sold into slavery[11] while others became citizens of other parts of the Roman Empire. The book of Acts in the New Testament, as well as other Pauline texts, make frequent reference to the large populations of Hellenised Jews in the cities of the Roman world. These Hellenised Jews were only affected by the diaspora in its spiritual sense, absorbing the feeling of loss and homelessness which became a cornerstone of the Jewish faith, much supported by persecutions in various parts of the world. The policy towards proselytization and conversion to Judaism, which spread the Jewish religion throughout Hellenistic civilization, seems to have ended with the wars against the Romans and the following reconstruction of Jewish values for the post-Temple era.

Of critical importance to the reshaping of Jewish tradition from the Temple-based religion to the traditions of the Diaspora, was the development of the interpretations of the Torah found in the Mishnah and Talmud

further, even a brief understanding or reading of the OT, should make one aware of the Jews being taken captive more than once and led into captivity...the rebuilding of the wall around Jerusalem and temple is also included

to state the Jews ran off is nonsense no matter what understanding a person may have with regards to dispensation or other
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I'm just digging through the history presented on the Balfour Org and posted snippets which does not tally with the revised history that is generally promoted nowadays.

The information presented states that the indigenous population (mainly of Arab descent) were not given consideration in the "deal" - the settlement of Jewish immigrants is not unlike the white wave of immigrants taking over Canada, Australia and the US.
not a student of history then, are you :rolleyes: