Trump Stands By Israel

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7seasrekeyed

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Not only that, when they were taken into captivity one of the prophets wrote/spoke of their return.

There is no mention of return in the new testament neither has a prophet risen up in the succeeding centuries proclaiming a return to the land.

the Jews were taken into captivity more than once and at time only portions of the land

stop pretending you know anything about it

Captivities of the Jews
The present article is confined to the forcible deportation of the Jew; from their native land, and their forcible detention, under the Assyrian or Babylonian kings. Captives of Israel. --The kingdom of Israel was invaded by three or four successive kings of Assyria. Pul or Surdanapalus, according to Rawlinson, imposed a tribute (B.C. 771 or 712), Rawl.) upon Menahem. (2 Kings 15:19) and 1Chr 5:26 Tiglath-pileser carried away (B.C. 740) the trans-Jordanic tribes, (1 Chronicles 5:26) and the inhabitants of Galilee, (2 Kings 15:29) comp. Isai 9:1 To Assyria. Shalmaneser twice invaded, (2 Kings 17:3,5) the kingdom which remained to Hoshea, took Samaria (B.C. 721) after a siege of three years, and carried Israel away into Assyria. This was the end of the kingdom of the ten tribes of Israel. Captivities of Judah .--Sennacherib (B.C. 713) is stated to have carried into Assyria 200,000 captives from the Jewish cities which he took. (2 Kings 18:13) Nebuchadnezzar, in the first half of his reign (B.C. 606-562), repeatedly invaded Judea, besieged Jerusalem, carried away the inhabitants to Babylon, and destroyed the temple. The 70 years of captivity predicted by Jeremiah, (Jeremiah 25:12) are dated by Prideaux from B.C. 606. The captivity of Ezekiel dates from B.C. 598, when that prophet, like Mordecai the uncle of Esther (Esther 2:6) accompanied Jehoiachin. The captives were treated not as slaves but as colonists. The Babylonian captivity was brought to a close by the decree, (Ezra 1:2) of Cyrus (B.C. 536), and the return of a portion of the nation under Sheshbazzar or Zerubbabel (B.C. 535), Ezra (B.C. 458) and Nehemiah (B.C. 445). Those who were left in Assyria, (Esther 8:9,11) and kept up their national distinctions, were known as The Dispersion. (John 7:35; 1:1; James 1:1) The lost tribes. --Many attempts have been made to discover the ten tribes existing as a distinct community; but though history bears no witness of the present distinct existence, it enables us to track the footsteps of the departing race in four directions after the time of the Captivity.

  1. Some returned and mixed with the Jews. (Luke 2:36; Philemon 3:5) etc.
  2. Some were left in Samaria, mingled with the Samaritans, (Ezra 6:21; John 4:12) and became bitter enemies of the Jews.
  3. Many remained in Assyria, and were recognized as an integral part of the Dispersion; see (Acts 2:1; 26:7)
  4. Most, probably, apostatized in Assyria, adopted the usages and idolatry of the nations among whom they were planted, and became wholly swallowed up in them.
with regard to the 10 tribes, much has been written, much of what has been surmised, but as stated above, the term is 'many attempts have been made'

attempt does not indicate certainty or success in the endeavor
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I'm sure you are.

actually yes I am

I was so good at it actually, I was recommended for independent study, having to hand in only three papers written on three different subjects of my choosing to count for graduation and I received in the high 90's for each paper. in other words, no class but my own and my own research and documentation. it was an honor :)

I've never lost interest and I find it helps with comprehension with regards to both scripture and world events
 
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7seasrekeyed

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^^^ Professor Wiki

can you read?

I stated a brief understanding and did use wiki for their brief info regarding a very complicated and probably hard to understand, with regards to a formative and comprehensive personal understanding and conviction obtained from the ability to disseminate information from myriad sites, put together a timeline, introduce biblical data and leave room for uncertainty and questionable assertions in conclusion and still manage to regard the Bible as truthful and history a companion to that truth

you have proven yourself incapable of doing such as described with your prejudicial outlook and borrowed propaganda from the left, liberals and those who hate Israel

I would hardly expect a copy/paste editor such as yourself to go to all the trouble those who study history go to in order to better comprehend the world around them, therefore, that would be why I used wiki
 
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UnderGrace

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Not only that, when they were taken into captivity one of the prophets wrote/spoke of their return.

There is no mention of return in the new testament neither has a prophet risen up in the succeeding centuries proclaiming a return to the land.
Also interesting is that the converted Jews, recognized the signs told by Jesus fled to Pella.

It was a horrific siege by the Romans, torture, rape and some killed themselves rather than be caught by the Romans.

It was horrific and the temple lay desolate, not one stone upon the other recorded in history, so why do they gather at the wailing/western wall?

Did Jesus lie?
 

Locutus

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It was horrific and the temple lay desolate, not one stone upon the other recorded in history, so why do they gather at the wailing/western wall?

Did Jesus lie?
They obviously don't heed Jesus' words or history. This is total anti-christ.
 
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They obviously don't heed Jesus' words or history. This is total anti-christ.
Agree...seems pretty clear in scripture. Interesting we are being labeled anti-semetic which is really totally outside of the discussion but no matter,

Look what John states so clearly......

John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and Son

And then when the high profile deceivers tell us to bless modern day Israel they contradict scripture ....John further elaborates

2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2 John 1:10 -11 and if they bring this doctrine .... neither bid him God speed (blessings) For he that biddeth him (bless) God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Gen 12:3 does not apply to the modern state of Israel

The promise to Abraham was fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ

There is neither Jew nor Greek....
Gal 3:28

Yet we have this this ubiquitous false teaching that Israel ( a secular state) is a fulfillment of prophecy, and this teaching came to fruition just as the Zionist movement gained momentum, how convenient.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Agree...seems pretty clear in scripture. Interesting we are being labeled anti-semetic which is really totally outside of the discussion but no matter,

Look what John states so clearly......

John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and Son

And then when the high profile deceivers tell us to bless modern day Israel they contradict scripture ....John further elaborates

2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2 John 1:10 -11 and if they bring this doctrine .... neither bid him God speed (blessings) For he that biddeth him (bless) God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Gen 12:3 does not apply to the modern state of Israel

The promise to Abraham was fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ

There is neither Jew nor Greek....
Gal 3:28

Yet we have this this ubiquitous false teaching that Israel ( a secular state) is a fulfillment of prophecy, and this teaching came to fruition just as the Zionist movement gained momentum, how convenient.

found a picture of a group of preterists

 

Locutus

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The historical record shows a series of contradictory promises relating to Palestine

They principally include:

  • 1915 McMahon-Hussein correspondenceBritain offered Sharif Hussein of Mecca support for an Arab State including Palestine

  • 1916 Sykes-Picot AgreementBritain, France and Russia made a secret agreement to divide up the Middle East between them

  • 1917 Balfour DeclarationBritain, in promising support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine also promised to safeguard the rights of the Arab population

  • 1918 Anglo-French Declaration Britain and France promised independence to the former subjects of the Ottoman Turks, including Palestine

  • 1922 Palestine Mandate Britain promised the League of Nations that it would prepare Palestine for independence, but failed to do so.

  • 1939 White PaperJewish opinion condemned the White Paper as a retreat from the promise in the Balfour Declaration to create a Jewish National Home.

  • 1948 Mandate Surrendered – Britain abandoned its pledge to protect Palestinian rights by withdrawing its forces leading to 750,000 Palestinians becoming refugees.
http://www.balfourproject.org/the-contradictory-promises/
 
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7seasrekeyed

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It is slim pickings all around for true leaders
Puppets in the hands of puppet masters

Yes lets all applaud as we march closer to more war and bloodshed.:(
does the Bible say to applaud or pray?

not sure how a preterist prays about things they think are already over though?

 

Locutus

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does the Bible say to applaud or pray?

not sure how a preterist prays about things they think are already over though?
Lemme see - a whiny poster, a whiny Resident Trump - is there a little similarity there?

 
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kaylagrl

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Agree...seems pretty clear in scripture. Interesting we are being labeled anti-semetic which is really totally outside of the discussion but no matter,

Look what John states so clearly......

John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and Son

And then when the high profile deceivers tell us to bless modern day Israel they contradict scripture ....John further elaborates

2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2 John 1:10 -11 and if they bring this doctrine .... neither bid him God speed (blessings) For he that biddeth him (bless) God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Gen 12:3 does not apply to the modern state of Israel

The promise to Abraham was fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ

There is neither Jew nor Greek....
Gal 3:28

Yet we have this this ubiquitous false teaching that Israel ( a secular state) is a fulfillment of prophecy, and this teaching came to fruition just as the Zionist movement gained momentum, how convenient.


Agree...seems pretty clear in scripture. Interesting we are being labeled anti-semetic which is really totally outside of the discussion but no matter,

Look what John states so clearly......

John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and Son

And then when the high profile deceivers tell us to bless modern day Israel they contradict scripture ....John further elaborates

2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2 John 1:10 -11 and if they bring this doctrine .... neither bid him God speed (blessings) For he that biddeth him (bless) God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Gen 12:3 does not apply to the modern state of Israel

The promise to Abraham was fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ

There is neither Jew nor Greek....
Gal 3:28

Yet we have this this ubiquitous false teaching that Israel ( a secular state) is a fulfillment of prophecy, and this teaching came to fruition just as the Zionist movement gained momentum, how convenient.

Agree...seems pretty clear in scripture. Interesting we are being labeled anti-semetic which is really totally outside of the discussion but no matter,

Hey,I started the thread. I didn't bring anti-Semitism into this, you and the bot did. So don't play victim when you're called on it. Now you're saying Jews are the anti-Christ. Romans says the Jews have been blinded for a time. Once the Gentiles have come in then the Jews will be saved. All written down. Romans also makes clear we are grafted in and we ought not to brag. They are God's chosen people. You can twist the Word to back your anti-Semitic views, but God's plan for Israel will not be thwarted by replacement theology, anti-Semitism, or fake Palestinians. The land belongs to Him and he deeded it to the Jews. End of story.
 
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kaylagrl

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Lemme see - a whiny poster, a whiny Resident Trump - is there a little similarity there?


A whiny poster?! Are you kidding? You spam the forum with 20 posts a day and you have the nerve to call another poster whiny? Silly bot.
 

Locutus

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A whiny poster?! Are you kidding? You spam the forum with 20 posts a day and you have the nerve to call another poster whiny? Silly bot.
No I'm not kidding, we have a "tongue" speaking poster that rarely posts scripture, runs off at the tongue with memes and scatter brain rants rather than a valid rebuttal or valid response and I'm "sposed" compare this with my posts as spam?



No wonder Resident Rump got into power with the help of the Ruskies. lol-034.gif

You ain't far behind the other mutt either rolleye0010.gif
 
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No I'm not kidding, we have a "tongue" speaking poster that rarely posts scripture, runs off at the tongue with memes and scatter brain rants rather than a valid rebuttal or valid response and I'm "sposed" compare this with my posts as spam?



No wonder Resident Rump got into power with the help of the Ruskies.

You ain't far behind the other mutt either
As someone once said to me and so true......Dispensationalism makes Jesus a worker in Moses’ house. Sad really

The church is and has always been one, under various administrations, under types, shadows, and now under the reality in Christ, because the object of faith has always been one. Jesus the Messiah was the object of faith of the typological church (Heb. 11; Luke 24; 2 Cor. 3), and He remains the object of faith.
 
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kaylagrl

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No I'm not kidding, we have a "tongue" speaking poster that rarely posts scripture, runs off at the tongue with memes and scatter brain rants rather than a valid rebuttal or valid response and I'm "sposed" compare this with my posts as spam?



No wonder Resident Rump got into power with the help of the Ruskies. View attachment 196442

You ain't far behind the other mutt either View attachment 196444

You should know insulting a Canuck is useless, we could care less what people think, especially when we know we're right. I'd have to go a loooong way to catch up with your spam and propaganda. And now I can add lies to that. Trump did NOT collude with the Russians. You know I never had any use for Obama or his policies, but I never called him names. It's juvenile and it sure ain't Christlike.