Not By Works

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Well there goes mr holier than though again with his attacks against other people.. One must wonder why he is here and not out witnessingn in the streets. (He has been here more than DCON lately)


Talk about a hypocrite!
Hahha I am.on from about 8 am to 11 am catching up every day...just had a run in with your pal in the tongues thread....hilariously sad
 

Argueless

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We should want and feel the need to do good works for Christ whenever we are born again. We are, after-all, His servants. Our motive to do good works should always be to praise God Almighty. However, we can and will never do enough works to get and to keep salvation.
It is never a teaching of God through Jesus and His disciples to save themselves but to labor for the sake of those who would be saved through FAITH in Christ for the glory of God.

The body of Christ is led by the Spirit to do what the Head commands them to do. The Lord is the Spirit.

We work not for our own benefit but for the benefit of other people.

It is God's work to save His people.
We are His fellow workers and instruments of His righteousness.
We are the good and faithful servants of God who obey His commands and therefore bear fruit that will last.

A dead tree will not bear fruit and is cut down and thrown into the fire...just as the body without the spirit is dead, faith without works is dead also.

"REMAIN IN HIM AND HE WILL REMAIN IN YOU."

...You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. DO NOT BE ARROGANT, BUT BE AFRAID. For if God did not spare the natural branches, HE WILL NOT SPARE YOU EITHER. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you CONTINUE in his kindness. Otherwise, YOU ALSO WILL BE CUT OFF. Romans 11:19-22
 
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You fell for a secret other language that has a different meaning for 'repent' and 'confession'.
That is goofy and not true.
Scripture is never a secret, and if you knew etymology and did your homework you would know you peddle Catholic doctrine based on

the corruption of the words from their true meaning,

Why you may ask:unsure:......... to make people dependent and insecure, dependent on a mere men (priests) and and insecure about their salvation which according to scripture is knowable, secure, a binding covenant.
 
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Please forgive me, I have only been back after a long absence and I see that there is 4738 pages and I think my past two responses regarding Abraham and the promise was from a post from maybe even the first page!!
That is ok...keep firing sis.....we love the sword play ;)
 
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Someone needs to look in the mirror. He attacks Decon, then when someone calls him out. He attacks that person

Its not all about you my friend..

There comes a time where you have to admit you are not innocent.
And I am not even here when he does........very snakey.....
 

YourTruthGod

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We should want and feel the need to do good works for Christ whenever we are born again. We are, after-all, His servants. Our motive to do good works should always be to praise God Almighty. However, we can and will never do enough works to get and to keep salvation.
You don't know how powerful God's Word is; and you don't know that you are supposed to obey to get saved.
 

PennEd

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Paul doesn't have a different gospel from Jesus, no way. Paul's blood did not make a new covenant. Paul didn't have the world on his shoulders. Paul was not a hypocrite who cursed himself by preaching a different gospel.

No way can an unrepentant person get saved.

Dead works are the sinful things you did before repenting.


No way do I agree with that, God forbid.
I'd like to pity you.
As I thought, you are lost. The ONLY obstacle to receiving the Truth is that you think you already have it.
I pray the Holy Spirit will reveal your gross error. But in the mean time we can't allow YOU to make others TWICE a child of Hell.

That is why we must continue to proclaim, and not be ashamed, of the ONE TRUE GOSPEL unto Salvation since you reject Scripture and do not think yourself worthy of Eternal Life.
 

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Not if you know the truth...
He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” John 8:47

Here's what God said...

...Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength...Deuteronomy 6:5

And said through John;

...And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 2 John 1:6

...“If you love me, you will obey what I command. John 14:15

Thus Paul said;

...I have written you quite boldly on some points, as if to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God by what I have said and done—Romans 15:15-18
 

YourTruthGod

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I'd like to pity you.
As I thought, you are lost. The ONLY obstacle to receiving the Truth is that you think you already have it.
I pray the Holy Spirit will reveal your gross error. But in the mean time we can't allow YOU to make others TWICE a child of Hell.

That is why we must continue to proclaim, and not be ashamed, of the ONE TRUE GOSPEL unto Salvation since you reject Scripture and do not think yourself worthy of Eternal Life.
You like your denomination more than God's Truth?
 
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UnderGrace

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What you think you were special for having someone come to you to preach you the right denomination's gospel?
PennEd wrote the Gospel clearly, as outlined in scripture, completely apart from any denomination, you are the one with a denominational doctrine... the Catholic doctrine.
 

YourTruthGod

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false......and you are barking up the wrong tree pal....she already knows the truth and will.not biy your false drivel
You are going against confessing your sins to God and repenting of them, and calling on him.
You don't feel any shame?
 

YourTruthGod

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Scripture is never a secret, and if you knew etymology and did your homework you would know you peddle Catholic doctrine based on

the corruption of the words from their true meaning,

Why you may ask:unsure:......... to make people dependent and insecure, dependent on a mere men (priests) and and insecure about their salvation which according to scripture is knowable, secure, a binding covenant.
You are going against confessing your sins to God and saying you repent of them, and calling on Him. Why do you go against that?
 

YourTruthGod

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I absolutely care, I care about what you say too....since there is always an audience around.
It makes you want to fight me for saying confess your sins to Jesus and tell Jesus you repent of them and call on him?

You don't think for a second there is something wrong with you?