What if Adam and Eve ate the tree of life?

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Magenta

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Correct. So anything like God should be eternal and truth.This is God
You seem to miss the point. Being "like" something else does not make one the other. Man does not become God to eat of the Tree of Life. Even in our immortal eternal-ever-after bodies, we will not be God.
 

Noose

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The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him.
(Psalm 92:15)
In the beginning, God
(Genesis 1:1)
In the beginning was the the Word
(John 1:1)

Q.E.D.

God does not require Satan in order to exist. He is I AM THAT I AM -- self existent, eternal: His existence depends on nothing other than Himself; He exists because He exists, He exists in order that He exists, He simply IS and nothing exists except that He does.

what, when the final enemy is destroyed, God will cease to exist?

IMO you should run an antivirus scan on your program.
Nope. God doesn't need anything, existence is God.

His eternal attributes are:
Righteous judge
Love
Merciful
Creator
Truth
If He is truth and He is also all that from eternal past, then truth demands that He must create -How can He be a creator without creating?
Truth demands that He must judge, how would He judge if there's no one to judge?
Truth demands that He loves, love of self is called selfishness and God is not selfish.

So all existence is God.
 

posthuman

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#43
Correct. So anything like God should be eternal and truth.This is God
√ 4 = 2

is false. not because 2² 4
((because it does))
but because it is also true that


(-2)² = 4

the correct equation is

√ 4 = {-2, 2}
 

posthuman

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#44
You seem to miss the point. Being "like" something else does not make one the other. Man does not become God to eat of the Tree of Life. Even in our immortal eternal-ever-after bodies, we will not be God.
maybe he's missing a bracket somewhere or misspelled a variable.

anyway it's clear that his program is producing errors. it could be malicious code
 

Noose

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#45
You seem to miss the point. Being "like" something else does not make one the other. Man does not become God to eat of the Tree of Life. Even in our immortal eternal-ever-after bodies, we will not be God.
Correct; being like something doesn't necessarily make one the other but this doesn't apply to God.

Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

Heavens and earth represent everything that was created. If only God's word who is God shall not pass away, what is this other thing you are telling me that will not pass in the form of 'our immortal eternal- ever -after'?

It is the word of God that you willingly receive that will resurrect and live forever in the so called our immortal eternal ever after and it is God. The reason the Father and the son are one. It is the same word or spirit that God blew in Adam for him to be a living soul.
 

posthuman

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#46
Existence or even reality is nothing more than a human heart/mind contrasting between two things.
God only exists if you think of Him?

how is it more than one human exists if one only exists because the other considers him? perhaps you are the one who is only an illusion.

your rhetoric puts your own heart in the place of God.
 

Magenta

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#47
Correct; being like something doesn't necessarily make one the other but this doesn't apply to God.

Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

Heavens and earth represent everything that was created. If only God's word who is God shall not pass away, what is this other thing you are telling me that will not pass in the form of 'our immortal eternal- ever -after'?

It is the word of God that you willingly receive that will resurrect and live forever in the so called our immortal eternal ever after and it is God. The reason the Father and the son are one. It is the same word or spirit that God blew in Adam for him to be a living soul.
I like this perspective, you have expressed it much better here, but we still do not become God, He is living in us, there is a difference :)
 

Noose

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#49
false.

t + u + v + w + x + y + z = H has 7 variables. if you have 2 out of 7 you do not have the solution to H.

... and God is immeasurably infinite

you should scan your registry for integrity.
Jer 10: 6There is none like You, O LORD. You are great, and Your name is mighty in power.

Exodus 8:10
"Tomorrow," Pharaoh answered. "It will be as you say," Moses replied, "so that you may know that there is no one like the LORD our God.

Psalm 86:8
O Lord, there is none like You among the gods, nor any works like Yours.

Yet God says "..man has become like one of us"
Instead of scanning your register, you need to ponder
 

posthuman

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maybe he's missing a bracket somewhere or misspelled a variable.

anyway it's clear that his program is producing errors. it could be malicious code
@Magenta

:) FYI


God created the housing for a man's spirit, from clay on the 6th day and then breathed the program (that contained the universe) in him- so man became a living soul.
@Noose

is there a cryptographic-key-exchange that ensures the integrity of the program, and is it a secure system?
 

Noose

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#51
I like this perspective, you have expressed it much better here, but we still do not become God, He is living in us, there is a difference:)
True, there's a difference because through man, evil and good have found meaning. There's no evil with God.

Ecc 3:10I have seen the burden that God has laid on men to occupy them. 11He has made everythingbeautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the workGod has done from beginning to end
 

posthuman

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Jer 10: 6There is none like You, O LORD. You are great, and Your name is mighty in power.

Exodus 8:10
"Tomorrow," Pharaoh answered. "It will be as you say," Moses replied, "so that you may know that there is no one like the LORD our God.

Psalm 86:8
O Lord, there is none like You among the gods, nor any works like Yours.

Yet God says "..man has become like one of us"
Instead of scanning your register, you need to ponder
can i suggest booting into recovery mode?

he shall speak for you to the people; and he will be as a mouth for you and you will be as God to him
(Exodus 4:16)

try this:
open a cmd line with administrative privileges and query "
is Moses God?"
 

Noose

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can i suggest booting into recovery mode?

he shall speak for you to the people; and he will be as a mouth for you and you will be as God to him
(Exodus 4:16)

try this:
open a cmd line with administrative privileges and query "
is Moses God?"
What you don't understand is that Moses was a form of Messiah and Messiaship involves God's authority on earth. The reason Moses was a Messiah is that God put His words in his mouth- this basically means, God occupied Moses. There are only two prophets in the OT who God literally occupied, Moses and Elijah. This also explains why their deaths are not straight forward otherwise their deaths would mean salvation to the world which was not God's plan.
 

AxeElf

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is it not a prayer for understanding what is written?
I suppose the first verse is, anyway. The other 10 still seem extraneous, and even the generic plea for understanding seems out of place in any particular, individual thread; it could just be posted in a sticky thread over the whole forum at once.
 

Noose

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can i suggest booting into recovery mode?

he shall speak for you to the people; and he will be as a mouth for you and you will be as God to him
(Exodus 4:16)

try this:
open a cmd line with administrative privileges and query "
is Moses God?"
Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.

Is Jesus God? Absolutely.

What about Zion? which represents believers in the new testament?

Isaiah 51:16
I have put My words in your mouth, and covered you in the shadow of My hand, to establish the heavens, to found the earth, and to say to Zion, "You are My people."

Again, who creates the heavens and the earth?
If there was any doubt, Isaiah 51 clears it, God creates through the heart of men. I will post the whole chapter (Isa 51) for you to read and hopefully get something.
Eden in Isaiah 51 is clearly represented as the heart of a man too.
 

JaumeJ

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That's right.

Rom 8:18 I consider that our present sufferings are not comparable to the glory that will be revealed in us.

Question is, how can good be good if there's no evil? it won't be good anymore, it would be status quo or normal.

Good cannot contain evil of any sort. I aqm only permitted to draw on my personal experience of the Holy Spirit entering into me. If that is only a taste of what we have to look forward to, it is pure and good and perfect......Only our Father can give us all this.