What if Adam and Eve ate the tree of life?

[posthuman]

Wait the Garden Of Eden is parable? I thought It was actually literally taking seriously. I'm actually curious would life be differently. Were all human didn't have to die. Instead live enteral.

the garden is literal but it is also a picture just as the children of Israel were literally brought out of Egypt and it is also a picture.

the most palatable explanation i have heard from a preacher/teacher is that if they had eaten of the tree of life after having eaten of the tree of knowledge, they would have lived forever in a poisoned state of death. it is reasonable that this is Satan's aim.

we have to be cleansed of our iniquities before we are brought into Christ - we don't enter the kingdom in our carnal, natural state, but only through the redemption He works, through faith in Him and what He accomplished for us by His cross.

it is the same: 'you must be born again' -- so that you can eat of eternal life. and this is eternal life: to know Him, the Only True God, and the Son, whom He sent to crush the head of the serpent and to heal and save the lost. to eat of this Life, of Him, without faith in and knowledge of the Son, is to eat condemnation ((re: 1 Cor. 11:29)) - is it not the same situation if Adam and the Woman had eaten of the tree of life while death dwelt in them?

 

[posthuman]

Before they sinned they would not have a desire to eat from the tree of life

i'm not sure how you get to this statement.. ?

 

[posthuman]

I'm curious if this was supposed to have something to do with the topic of the thread, or if it is just an unrelated drive-by scripture citation.

If it's the former, I'm probably not the only one who would appreciate some words of explanation, and if it's the latter, I'm sorry I gave it any attention.

is it not a prayer for understanding what is written?

TAU​

Let my cry come near before Thee, O LORD: ​

give me understanding according to Thy word. ​

(Psalm 119:169)​

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((lyrics = Psalm 119 TAU))

Behold! SATAN IS DEFEATED

 

[posthuman]

Something that sticks out to me is, after God forms judgement on them, Adam names his wife Eve because she would become the mother of all living.

The words life and living are very similar.

yes

and Adam does this when he hears the judgement of the Serpent and the promise of the Seed which was to come

and at this point God exclaims that the man has become like one of 'The Us' -- not to the Woman, and not when they had eaten, but when Adam changes the Woman's name to Eve.

 

[posthuman]

Because they must of ate of the tree of life before, and knew what the tree of life represented, and they wanted to eat of it to reverse what happened to them from eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

why did they go hide and make coverings for themselves from fig leaves instead of reaching out and taking of the fruit of the other tree?

there is a space of time between eating and the presence of God coming to them. there was opportunity. what prevented them?

 

[posthuman]

Once you get past the idea of the Garden of Eden as a historical account

hmm probably you should work on step 1 then

 

[Bingo]

"Different authors sometimes use the same words in different ways, and one should base their interpretation on the immediate context, not just the fact that they use the same word. Hundreds of definitions of many words
has and always will define , precisely ones 'perceived' understanding.
The parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: Many have misinterpreted remarks simply because it is taken out of context, as the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
Subjects of immense substance, and importance have been beat up and down throughout the
entirety of Christian religions. The absolute 'perceived' understanding rests solely on each individual...no more...no less. There being no altertive."
Are not the things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit, and do not come from the heart of man. Correct interpretation of the Bible is therefore impossible without the illuminating work of the Holy Spirit in the mind and heart of the believer. God's Spirit must enlighten human darkness - not as an addition to our wisdom, but as the absolutely essential source of the only true wisdom - first of all in order that we may be born again, and secondly so that we may understand His Word properly."
'Praise God'

 

[jimd]

🙁🙂What In your own expressive words Is YOUR understanding of why eve was the mother of all living,I would sure like to know the Interpretation given on this?

As far as I know, it simply means we are all descended from her. If it means anything else I would also like to know.

 

[Noose]

Gen 3:
22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

23Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life.

Short answer; if Adam reached for the tree of life, he would've been God, for he would know good an evil and also live forever like God- and his descendants would have been godlings/sons of God. This means there would be no existence at all.

Long answer:
1. There's no such thing as 'would have' or 'what would it be like', everything was by design. Nothing happens that God did not allow or doesn't know.

2. The garden of Eden is not a garden but the heart of a man, and the trees and their fruits are not trees or fruits but the product of a man's thoughts. The garden was in the East- East means judgement and judgement is of the man's heart by the word of God that is placed in there.

Adam failed and a Cherubim was placed in the East of the garden (as if Eve could not sneak in through the west) to protect the tree of life. This means that Adam lost the truth (word of God) that was put in his heart by God and therefore evil was born in the heart of a man. God knowing that it will take Him (God) to put the truth back in the heart of a man after so many millennia in the form of Jesus Christ, it was poetically depicted as cherub protecting the tree of life.

There are no angels in Iraq (where we have river Euphrates) protecting a tree.

We see a depiction of the same through the Nation of Israel and more specifically in the ark of the covenant thing. The ark of the covenant was specially made to God's specs, with two Cherubs as the cover (protection), and the tablets inside it (God's word/Truth), it was also kept in the Holy of Holies with restricted access to man. Until Jesus died and the Holy of Holies curtain was torn giving man free access to Truth.

 

[posthuman]

he would've been God, for he would know good an evil and also live forever like God-

why did you say it would be the case that Adam = God on the basis that Adam would have two attributes similar to God's own?

to me that is a non-sequitur.

 

[Noose]

why did you say it would be the case that Adam = God on the basis that Adam would have two attributes similar to God's own?

to me that is a non-sequitur.

I'm not the one saying, it is God saying:

Gen 3:
22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

Q. Does God know good and evil? Does God live forever?

If Adam had eaten of the tree of life, he would live forever on top of knowing good and evil.

 

[posthuman]

if Adam reached for the tree of life, he would've been God, for he would know good an evil and also live forever like God- and his descendants would have been godlings/sons of God. This means there would be no existence at all.

why do you say there would be no existence if Adam = God ?

to me this is a non-sequitur.

why do you tie existence to whether a person = God or not? such that you only exist if you are not God?

does God exist? God = God. but you seem to be saying that

if (x == God)​

then ​

{​

x_exist = FALSE​

} ​

if i put God into your program, God doesn't exist. i think there is a bug in your code.

 

[posthuman]

I'm not the one saying, it is God saying:

Gen 3:
22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

Q. Does God know good and evil? Does God live forever?

If Adam had eaten of the tree of life, he would live forever on top of knowing good and evil.

did you not notice the word "like" ?

 

[Noose]

why do you say there would be no existence if Adam = God ?

to me this is a non-sequitur.

why do you tie existence to whether a person = God or not? such that you only exist if you are not God?

does God exist? God = God. but you seem to be saying that

if (x == God)​

then ​

{​

x_exist = FALSE​

} ​

if i put God into your program, God doesn't exist. i think there is a bug in your code.

Simple.

Can there be good without evil?
Can there be light without darkness?
Can there be beauty without ugliness?
Can there be sound without silence?
Can there be eternal without temporary?

Sure, all these things can be but they will have no meaning yet existence is with meaning.

Existence or even reality is nothing more than a human heart/mind contrasting between two things. The universe was founded in a human mind.

 

[Noose]

did you not notice the word "like" ?

And what is like God? is there anything like God?

 

[Magenta]

And what is like God? is there anything like God?

To be like God does not equate to being God. I am like you in that I have a face with two eyes, a nose, and a mouth, but that does not make me a man.

 

[Noose]

To be like God does not equate to being God. I am like you in that I have a face with two eyes, a nose, and a mouth, but that does not make me a man.

Correct. So anything like God should be eternal and truth.This is God

 

[posthuman]

Can there be good without evil?

The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him. ​

(Psalm 92:15)​

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In the beginning, God​

(Genesis 1:1) ​

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In the beginning was the the Word​

(John 1:1) ​

Q.E.D.

God does not require Satan in order to exist. He is I AM THAT I AM -- self existent, eternal: His existence depends on nothing other than Himself; He exists because He exists, He exists in order that He exists, He simply IS and nothing exists except that He does.

what, when the final enemy is destroyed, God will cease to exist?

IMO you should run an antivirus scan on your program.

 

[JaumeJ]

There will be good without evil come the Kigdom.

 

[posthuman]

Correct. So anything like God should be eternal and truth.This is God

false.

t + u + v + w + x + y + z = H has 7 variables. if you have 2 out of 7 you do not have the solution to H.

... and God is immeasurably infinite

you should scan your registry for integrity.