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In the other thread "Rom. 8:9 and the Salvation journey " we were able to establish a starting point at the beginning of the Salvation process . At that starting point we agreed that as the result of not having been given the Holy Spirit yet , Christ , His Word , and the promises there in are not ours yet either .
In this thread , part two of the Salvation journey , we will attempt to agree on the next step of this journey , and the state in which we are in at that point . This is a simple step , so i hope we can come to a quick agreement and move onto the next step , or drag it out for another 3 pages . If I can't get at least one person to agree with the understanding I'm presenting , I'll stop at that point .
Step two is the act of " repentance " . This act of repentance is simply a turning from , to . Repentance is turning of our mind from our way , to His way . Or also can be understood , as a turning from our way to the direction of the one calling us , the Father to Christ .
1) this act of repentance " is not " an act of Faith that would result in recieving the Spirit of Christ .
2) at this point in the Salvation process , still have not received the Spirit of Christ . So Christ , His Word , and the promises in His Word are not ours yet .
Are we still in agreement ?
In this thread , part two of the Salvation journey , we will attempt to agree on the next step of this journey , and the state in which we are in at that point . This is a simple step , so i hope we can come to a quick agreement and move onto the next step , or drag it out for another 3 pages . If I can't get at least one person to agree with the understanding I'm presenting , I'll stop at that point .
Step two is the act of " repentance " . This act of repentance is simply a turning from , to . Repentance is turning of our mind from our way , to His way . Or also can be understood , as a turning from our way to the direction of the one calling us , the Father to Christ .
1) this act of repentance " is not " an act of Faith that would result in recieving the Spirit of Christ .
2) at this point in the Salvation process , still have not received the Spirit of Christ . So Christ , His Word , and the promises in His Word are not ours yet .
Are we still in agreement ?
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