Faith

[JaumeJ]

How can a Believer keep the Lord's commandments and obey Him? And how do we do it?

In understanding what Jesus taught the Pharisees who could not receive His taching.

When obeying God we are under mercy, faith and justice. His mercy is always first, and ours should be as is His.

No one will ever apply the law with understanding if mercy, faith and justice are not applied.

I could elaborate but I feel a mindless debate coming with a lot of hair splitting so be content that i KNOW i AM SAVE BY GRACE AND MERCY ALONE, NOT BY MY Performance. but were I to live my life deliberately breaking all of God's laws that I know are in effect I would not be dong the worlds given me by God.....that is God's works

 

[mailmandan]

Reread my post to which you reply. Have I not made it clear simply saying those words is not enough. Anyone who believes Jesus Christ will do what He teaches. The cross is the finishing of His Gospel......

If you say you believe Him, yet do not do as He teaches, your faith is in vain. Christ's Gospel is much more the a few quotes it began in Genesis.

What do YOU believe the Gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the Gospel in Romans 1:16? Please show me where the Gospel that Paul preached in (Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Ephesians 3:1-9) which came to Paul through a revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12) "yet prior to that was a mystery" began and was preached in Genesis.

 

[luigi]

If we believe in love, truth, justice, and mercy, our actions will then show these qualities.
Our actions will then not be forced works we undertake, but will be part of our new nature that come naturally, by believing in Christ (His Way).

 

[luigi]

What do YOU believe the Gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the Gospel in Romans 1:16? Please show me where the Gospel that Paul preached in (Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Ephesians 3:1-9) which came to Paul through a revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12) "yet prior to that was a mystery" began and was preached in Genesis.

Hasn't the gospel been preached throughout the world? And yet the end hasn't come....ever wonder why?
Answer: It is because the true gospel of Christ and His kingdom has been corrupted right from the beginning, and therefore the true gospel has yet to be preached throughout the world.
We should then be asking ourselves, "what is the true gospel of the kingdom"?

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

[mailmandan]

Hasn't the gospel been preached throughout the world? And yet the end hasn't come....ever wonder why?
Answer: It is because the true gospel of Christ and His kingdom has been corrupted right from the beginning, and therefore the true gospel has yet to be preached throughout the world.
We should then be asking ourselves, "what is the true gospel of the kingdom"?

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Feel free to answer my question to JaumeJ and your question.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

What is no faith?

IMO,no faith Is to not believe anything that cannot be verified by seeing.

JESUS told Thomas that he believed because he had seen,blessed are those that believe without seeing.

 

[Dino246]

How can a Believer keep the Lord's commandments and obey Him? And how do we do it?

Well it certainly isn't by having "the Cross" as the object of our faith!

It is by believing in the person and finished work of Jesus Christ, Who fills each of us with the Holy Spirit, Who in turn changes us from the inside and enables us to keep the commandments. Without the Holy Spirit, we are powerless, and some dusty wood from the first century can't do a blessed thing to help.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Well it certainly isn't by having "the Cross" as the object of our faith!

It is by believing in the person and finished work of Jesus Christ, Who fills each of us with the Holy Spirit, Who in turn changes us from the inside and enables us to keep the commandments. Without the Holy Spirit, we are powerless, and some dusty wood from the first century can't do a blessed thing to help.

They love to say “the cross”I know Jimmy Is a GODly man and loves the LORD but he should look at the harvest and help bring us all Into unity to The fullness of the stature of JESUS and realize that GOD Is not the author of confusion.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Faith in Christ is believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died and rose from the dead.

But Faith ONLY is not grants Salvation, as some people from this generation teach. Believing ONLY is not enough according to Scriptures, sure it is enough according to this last days generation, but is NOT enough according to the Word of God.

Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (NOT to those who disobey HIM)

Who receives the Holy Ghost according to Scriptures?

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. (NOT to those who disobey HIM)

1Jn_2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

Woe to any person, Jew or Greek or YOU, if you claim you know HIM, but do not keep His Commandments. There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth from thousands who profess with their mouths they Know and Believe Jesus, but fail to keep His Commandments.

Now people of this generation will be more than glad to tell you what His Commandments are, But let us go and see what the Apostle John plainly and clearly tells us what His Commandments are:

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, (FAITH) and 2) love one another, (WORKS) as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

So according to the Word of God, those who Believe on Jesus Christ (Faith) AND Love One Another (Works) are they that will receive Eternal Life. Woe to any person who just has Works, but no Faith. Likewise woe to this generation who just has Faith and no works. Faith and Works go hand in hand. Believing and Loving One Another = His Commandments. Those who do one and NOT BOTH, are deceived and believe false doctrines which derived from the interpretations of humans.

Believe in Jesus + Love One Another = His Commandments
Faith + Works = His Commandments.
A person who has Faith but no Works = DEAD (Goat)
A person who has Works but no Faith = DEAD (Wolf)
A person who has both Faith and Works = Eternal Life (Sheep)

Believe the Word of God, NOT what humans teach.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

I do not know if I am hearing you right. Do you believe that faith and works is the cause of your eternal deliverance?

 

[JaumeJ]

There is no faith if there are no works of God manifested.......in each believer.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Faith in Christ is believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died and rose from the dead.

But Faith ONLY is not grants Salvation, as some people from this generation teach. Believing ONLY is not enough according to Scriptures, sure it is enough according to this last days generation, but is NOT enough according to the Word of God.

http://old.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-3-16/Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (NOT to those who disobey HIM)

Who receives the Holy Ghost according to Scriptures?

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. (NOT to those who disobey HIM)

1Jn_

There is no faith if there are no works of God manifested.......in each believer.

I understand what you are saying but I would rather say there Is no works If there Is no faith first.

 

[JaumeJ]

I understand what you are saying but I would rather say there Is no works If there Is no faith first.

Just paraphrasing the Word.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Apostle James said,show me your faith WITHOUT Your works and I will show you my faith BY my works.
In other words,a man can’t show a man their faith without using their body because man looks at the outward appearances.

Apostle James said,I will show you my faith BY my works.

Apostle James would have to use his body to show his faith to a man because If a person’s faith Is true,they will have good “works.”

GOD looks at the heart,so then HE would not have to see physical works to know that what the person Is saying Is true.

 

[DiscipleDave]

I do not know if I am hearing you right. Do you believe that faith and works is the cause of your eternal deliverance?

Faith is all that is needed for one to become SAVED, to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord. ONCE SAVED a person is to Love One Another as the very person they accept into their hearts, COMMANDED them to do. Woe to those who accept Jesus into their heart by Faith, but do not do what He says, namely "Love One Another" These are lukewarm Christians, they claim Jesus as their Savior and Lord, but do not do what He COMMANDS them to do, to Love One Another, to have works, to give to the needy, to help those in need, to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. The Nicolaitans believe ONLY, and think they do not need to have any Works at all. What they fail to understand is, if LOVE is Truly living inside of you, that is to say, if Jesus is living inside of you, you won't be able to help to Love One Another, it is what He does. If Jesus Truly lives in you, you will be loving your enemies, why? Not because you want to love them, but because it is He that is in you, that makes you love them. He is Love, and if He is in you, you will be filled with many good works, because He is in you. LOVE is in you. Woe to the Nicolaitans though, which believe and teach, that all you need is Faith ONLY,

To GET SAVED, requires FAITH ONLY.
To BE SAVED, requires FAITH and Obedience to the very one you say you believe, and He commands us to "Love One Another" Woe to this generation indeed, there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth, when the day comes that determines who is and who is not SAVED. That DAY only happens when Jesus Returns and your name is found in the Book of Life and you are taken up with Him. ONLY when a person is taken up, is the exact moment a person is TRULY SAVED.

i can claim with my mouth that "i am Saved" But i will not be TRULY SAVED until that day that i am raptured up to be with Jesus where He will be forever, in the Holy City Jerusalem, on Earth.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

I understand what you are saying but I would rather say there Is no works If there Is no faith first.

A devil worshipper that helps an old lady cross the street, has works.
A Nicolaitan who claims Jesus is the Lord, but has no works at all, has Faith.

Scriptures plainly indicates that there are those who have Faith ONLY, with no works.

Many, and i say MANY, know that Jesus is the Lord, and they have Faith, but are dead because their Faith does not exhibit the very person they claim lives inside of them, they lack works. You will know them by their fruits.

A person who believes in Jesus, but has no proof of Love living inside of them lacks works.
A person who believes in Jesus, and has proof of Love living inside of them has many good works.
Anyone can GET SAVED. Anyone can believe that Jesus is the Lord, even demons know that Jesus is the Lord.
What separates the goat Christians from the sheep Christians is the fruits (works) that they bare.
A good Tree produces ONLY good fruits.
A bad Tree produces some bad fruits.
A bad Tree produces NO GOOD FRUITS.
A person who claims that believing ONLY is enough for one to BE SAVED, is a person who claims to be a Good tree but has no fruits at all. How then is it a good tree, if it has no fruits at all? Lukewarm Christians are they that believe in Jesus, but has no good works at all.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[seed_time_harvest]

A devil worshipper that helps an old lady cross the street, has works.
A Nicolaitan who claims Jesus is the Lord, but has no works at all, has Faith.

Scriptures plainly indicates that there are those who have Faith ONLY, with no works.

Many, and i say MANY, know that Jesus is the Lord, and they have Faith, but are dead because their Faith does not exhibit the very person they claim lives inside of them, they lack works. You will know them by their fruits.

A person who believes in Jesus, but has no proof of Love living inside of them lacks works.
A person who believes in Jesus, and has proof of Love living inside of them has many good works.
Anyone can GET SAVED. Anyone can believe that Jesus is the Lord, even demons know that Jesus is the Lord.
What separates the goat Christians from the sheep Christians is the fruits (works) that they bare.
A good Tree produces ONLY good fruits.
A bad Tree produces some bad fruits.
A bad Tree produces NO GOOD FRUITS.
A person who claims that believing ONLY is enough for one to BE SAVED, is a person who claims to be a Good tree but has no fruits at all. How then is it a good tree, if it has no fruits at all? Lukewarm Christians are they that believe in Jesus, but has no good works at all.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

But I mean the way GOD looks at man,the spirits of just men were made perfect and sealed.As for as the flesh man though,
the Bible says that any man that has been reborn of GOD will seek to purify himself even as he Is pure.

For we are HIS workmanship created In JESUS unto good works that we might walk In them.

Paul wrote that by the mercies of GOD present your bodies a living sacrifice which Is a reasonable thing to do.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

By The Way did Abraham have works when GOD accounted him righteous?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

There is no faith if there are no works of God manifested.......in each believer.

That Is true but men can only know If another man has faith by their works but GOD knows If we have faith by looking at the heart.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Romans 4:1-2
King James Version(KJV)

1.)What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2.)For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God.

 

[JaumeJ]

That Is true but men can only know If another man has faith by their works but GOD knows If we have faith by looking at the heart.

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