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Again rom: 8:7 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
It is the carnal mind that governs the flesh, which is the soul.
It is the carnal mind that governs the flesh, which is the soul.
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Oh I understand the bible. Been a Christian my entire life, went to church, Sunday school, youth group. Even went to a Christian high school. 
And I HATE socializing. I rarely go to church because of health issues but I watch a live service online.
It is YOU who doesn't truly understand the bible.
And I HATE socializing. I rarely go to church because of health issues but I watch a live service online.It is YOU who doesn't truly understand the bible.
Looks like everyone in this thread is speaking at cross-purposes. It is true that "the flesh" (the sin nature) is within the soul (and Jesus called it "the heart", from which come all evil thoughts and desires).
But it is the spirit which communicates with God, since the Holy Spirit dwells within the revived ("quickened) and renewed spirit. While the soul and spirit are closely linked, they are indeed separate. And that is why the natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit, whereas the spiritual man does.
So what the OP is saying is that the flesh must be mortified or put to death. However, the soul is the person himself and remains alive while the flesh is crucified by the power of the Spirit.
But it is the spirit which communicates with God, since the Holy Spirit dwells within the revived ("quickened) and renewed spirit. While the soul and spirit are closely linked, they are indeed separate. And that is why the natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit, whereas the spiritual man does.
So what the OP is saying is that the flesh must be mortified or put to death. However, the soul is the person himself and remains alive while the flesh is crucified by the power of the Spirit.
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The carnal mind governs the sinful body. HELLO!! I've explained this multiple times. The soul is what gets saved. GOD governs the saved soul. If we had no soul, we wouldn't be saved.
I've explained this multiple times. The soul is what gets saved. GOD governs the saved soul. If we had no soul, we wouldn't be saved.
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We all died in Adam
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For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1Cor.15:22
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For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1Cor.15:22
The mind is not the soul. Jesus Himself differentiates between the two. It IS the mind that is carnal to the unbeliever and CAN be to the believer that walks not in the Spirit.
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
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