Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

[DevotiontoBible]

I'm not a Calvinist.

Jesus did not have a sin nature. The seed for his conception came from God, not Adam. His Father is God. Ergo, no sin nature.

But His human nature came from Mary. Ergo, a sin nature.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Which doctrine is error. Or at least your interpretation of it is.

How am I in error of interepreting the doctrine of original sin?

 

[DevotiontoBible]

You have no scriptures saying Jesus had a sin nature.

Rom 8:3; Heb 2:16-18; Heb 4:15

 

[DevotiontoBible]

You give verses from a bible that is made for children and people who are barely literate.

That's because I'm posting for people like you.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

That verse says that Christ was made in the likeness of man, not that it actually was made sinful flesh. We are made in the likeness of GOD, but we are not made GOD.

You are saying Jesus was in the "likeness" of man but not that he actually was man just like we are not God. You are a Docetic heretic then. You need to rethink your position.

 

[pjharrison]

I think the one problem here with those who will not accept a Jesus with a sinful nature is due to a Calvinist understanding of total depravity. Mary was not totally depraved in the Calvinist sense:
Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you! ” Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean. “Don’t be afraid, Mary,” the angel told her, “for you have found favor with God! You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus.
Luke 1:28‭-‬31 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/luk.1.28-31.NLT

Jesus was the Son of God AND the son of Mary according to the angel. It means Jesus could have the fallen nature and be acceptable and favored by God because it is a non moral condition of fallen humanity.

You are following Catholic doctrine and Jehovah's witness doctrine. Their doctrine make Jesus an ordinary man and not God. Your saying the son of God, but your also making him Mary's physical son. She just raised him from a baby. She is his mother, but not biologically. Jesus came to save every one, so is doesn't really make too much difference that he came from that lineage, because all others can be grafted in. It seems like you are on the other side

 

[DevotiontoBible]

You are following Catholic doctrine and Jehovah's witness doctrine. Their doctrine make Jesus an ordinary man and not God. Your saying the son of God, but your also making him Mary's physical son. She just raised him from a baby. She is his mother, but not biologically. Jesus came to save every one, so is doesn't really make too much difference that he came from that lineage, because all others can be grafted in. It seems like you are on the other side

Actually, it is AOG theology.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

That's because I'm posting for people like you.

Is that the bible your church uses, or the one that they quote in the AOG study you're regurgitating?

 

[garee]

God who remains without nature a beginning of day, is supernatural ..

Men are still trying to make God, not seen, into a man, seen. The evil generation, natural unconverted man that seeks after the things seen before they will beleive, commit faith .

God is not a man as us having a nature and nether is there any fleshly as that seen infallible mediator as a interpreter between God, not seen and man seen between God, as a infallible umpire in which the scriptures calls a daysman and Catholicism calls a Pope .

The Son of man, Jesus as that seen when called "good master" knowing only God not seen is good gave glory to God not seen . God not seen is our master, teaching authority. In that way just as we are to call no man father on earth, the same applies to teacher .We are brother and sisters.. not masters .

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both. Job 9:32-33

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You are saying Jesus was in the "likeness" of man but not that he actually was man just like we are not God. You are a Docetic heretic then. You need to rethink your position.

It's obvious now that you're just being a troll.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Is that the bible your church uses, or the one that they quote in the AOG study you're regurgitating?

Can't you think of anything of substance to add to the discussion?

 

[DevotiontoBible]

It's obvious now that you're just being a troll.

You mutilated the orthodox understanding of the hypostatic union, especially adding in your last phrase comparing His humanity to us not being God. Jesus was very man, of very man. He was 100% man, not like a man. You need to think about what you are writing.

 

[pjharrison]

You mutilated the orthodox understanding of the hypostatic union, especially adding in your last phrase comparing His humanity to us not being God. Jesus was very man, of very man. He was 100% man, not like a man. You need to think about what you are writing.

It's clear to me now that you are working for the enemy

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You mutilated the orthodox understanding of the hypostatic union, especially adding in your last phrase comparing His humanity to us not being God. Jesus was very man, of very man. He was 100% man, not like a man. You need to think about what you are writing.

Like I said you're a troll. I never said what you said I said. I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish with your hard-headed, stiff-necked way of having a discussion.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Can't you think of anything of substance to add to the discussion?

I just want to know if that bible is what the AOG uses in their studies.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Like I said you're a troll. I never said what you said I said. I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish with your hard-headed, stiff-necked way of having a discussion.

Anybody can go back and see what you wrote.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Anybody can go back and see what you wrote.

I guess I'll have to spell it out for someone who uses a bible made for children.

Jesus being made in the likeness of sinful flesh doesn't mean that he was made sinful flesh, just like man being made in the likeness of GOD doesn't mean that he was made GOD.

Do you get it now?

 

[DevotiontoBible]

It's clear to me now that you are working for the enemy

Then the Bible is your enemy since it clearly states:
Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people.
Hebrews 2:17 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/heb.2.17.NLT

 

[pjharrison]

We sinned, he didn't. Is that a satanic Bible. Your fruits are bad.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

We sinned, he didn't. Is that a satanic Bible. Your fruits are bad.

Do you prefer this Bible?:

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Hebrews 2:17 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/heb.2.17.KJV