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So you're saying that abstaining from sin is important but bearing fruit is very important as well.
That brings to mind the parable of the talents, I remember the master called the unfruitful servant wicked and He cast him into the outer darkness if i remember correctly. That shows how seriously God takes our obligation to be fruitful, we are not given this life to just get by and try to enjoy it. We should be doing everything in our power to glorify God in everything we do.
I think that's the sort of thing you mean by bearing fruit.
That brings to mind the parable of the talents, I remember the master called the unfruitful servant wicked and He cast him into the outer darkness if i remember correctly. That shows how seriously God takes our obligation to be fruitful, we are not given this life to just get by and try to enjoy it. We should be doing everything in our power to glorify God in everything we do.
I think that's the sort of thing you mean by bearing fruit.
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No, I think enduring to the end is what it is, Suffering through tribulation, not giving up. and trusting God to carry me through to the end when he returns, And if I survive, I get to witness my lord coming with his robes dipped in blood, Watch him destroy evil, Watch him heal the earth, and watch him set up his throne in Jerusalem.
I do not know about you, But if I have this opportunity, it will give me extra hope to endure even harder, Because I only have to endure a short time (3.5 years)
Okay then. You think it means: but the one who remains physically alive to the end will remain physically alive to the end.
I think it means: because there will be no love from men and heinousnous toward each other, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures in love and faith in God to the end will be saved.
It's okay that we disagree.
I think it means: because there will be no love from men and heinousnous toward each other, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures in love and faith in God to the end will be saved.
It's okay that we disagree.
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We don't follow the letter of the law, which leads to death. We have a new and lifegiving way of following the Spirit. He is a true jew who is one inwardly. The flesh/letter avails a man nothing. It is the spirit that avails a man.
The word is spirit because God is Spirit. The words I give you are spirit and truth.
The torah says not to murder. Jesus says anger in my heart is murder and that my righteousness must exceed the righteousness of teachers of the law written on tablets of stone.
The word is spirit because God is Spirit. The words I give you are spirit and truth.
The torah says not to murder. Jesus says anger in my heart is murder and that my righteousness must exceed the righteousness of teachers of the law written on tablets of stone.
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Very sobering verses of scripture,
Can I ask if you are a Jew, I'm only asking because I've never heard a Christian referring to the Torah fro instruction. I have nothing against Jews, I actually have a lot of respect for them, because they have to keep something like 531 laws and that would be very hard work.
Can I ask if you are a Jew, I'm only asking because I've never heard a Christian referring to the Torah fro instruction. I have nothing against Jews, I actually have a lot of respect for them, because they have to keep something like 531 laws and that would be very hard work.
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Okay then. You think it means: but the one who remains physically alive to the end will remain physically alive to the end.
I think it means: because there will be no love from men and heinousnous toward each other, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures in love and faith in God to the end will be saved.
It's okay that we disagree.
I think it means: because there will be no love from men and heinousnous toward each other, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures in love and faith in God to the end will be saved.
It's okay that we disagree.
I think it means God giving the people at the time of great tribulation, Of which Jesus said, will be worse than any tribulation the earth has ever faced or will ever face, hope to continue to endure to trust him,
God is full of giving people hope to carry on. He does it in many places. this is one of them .
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2 Peter 3:14-17
14 So then, beloved ones, looking forward to this, do your utmost to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
15 and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him,
16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand,a which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures.
17 You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of thelawlessness,
If one follows the Spirit and walks in the Spirit, they will not have the anger in their heart that leads to outwardly murdering.
If one follows the law, they will not murder outwardly and will commend themselves for following the law while inside they are filthy.
If the inside of the cup is clean, the outside will be as well.
If the outside of the cup is clean, it is possible for the inside to be full of dead mans bones.
It is what comes from within a man that defiles him.
If one follows the law, they will not murder outwardly and will commend themselves for following the law while inside they are filthy.
If the inside of the cup is clean, the outside will be as well.
If the outside of the cup is clean, it is possible for the inside to be full of dead mans bones.
It is what comes from within a man that defiles him.
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If God does not change, neither will His Law. “My covenant I will not break, nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips” (Psalm 89:34). “I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it” (Ecclesiastes 3:14). “The works of his hands are faithful and just; all his precepts are trustworthy. They are steadfast for ever and ever, done in faithfulness and uprightness” (Psalm 111:7, 8).
God gave His Law to the Israelites at Mt. Sinai. Amid thunder and lightning, a thick cloud covered the mountain, and a trumpet blasted. Smoke billowed up as from a furnace and the whole mountain shook as the trumpet grew louder and louder. Moses led the Israelites out of their camp to meet with God, and every one of them trembled. Then God spoke (Exodus 19:16-19, 20:1). If this Law were to be changed, it would be reasonable to expect God Himself to announce it, and give reasons for its alteration, amid the same amount of ceremony. Yet there is no indication in Scripture of such an announcement.
God gave His Law to the Israelites at Mt. Sinai. Amid thunder and lightning, a thick cloud covered the mountain, and a trumpet blasted. Smoke billowed up as from a furnace and the whole mountain shook as the trumpet grew louder and louder. Moses led the Israelites out of their camp to meet with God, and every one of them trembled. Then God spoke (Exodus 19:16-19, 20:1). If this Law were to be changed, it would be reasonable to expect God Himself to announce it, and give reasons for its alteration, amid the same amount of ceremony. Yet there is no indication in Scripture of such an announcement.