Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

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LibrarianLeo

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There is no such thing as being born GAY. It is a learned SIN. A Sin that Jesus Himself tells is an abominable sin. Unless, the sinners repent and truly believe in Jesus Christ and His Gospel (1 Cor 15:`-4),
We all live with sin until death.

Gay teachers can identify gay children in grade school. If fact, other children
begin to bully gay toddlers very early and must work to maintain respect for all.
I hope you don't wish for gay toddlers to be bullied.
 

longtrekker

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If that transgender did not know that it is a sin to transform himself like this, God will understand.

The only basis for him to be saved is if he had shown mercy to others and help his fellow men such as feeding the hungry, drink the thirsty etc as mentioned in Matthew 25.

God is the ultimate judge to all men so we cannot say that he will surely go to hell because who knows God will pardon a transgender on the Judgment Day.


Hi Jameen


The only basis on his being saved is whether or not he believes on Jesus and his finished work on the cross – and nothing else. Apart from this good works are meaningless.
 

Bladerunner

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We all live with sin until death.

Gay teachers can identify gay children in grade school. If fact, other children
begin to bully gay toddlers very early and must work to maintain respect for all.


Yes and you can dress up a Boy to look like a girl or vise-versa but it still does not change their gender...What it does do is change the normal mind to one that follows its teachers regardless of their teachings.

Don't think there will be any snowflakes in Heaven
 

LibrarianLeo

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Yes and you can dress up a Boy to look like a girl or vise-versa but it still does not change their gender...What it does do is change the normal mind to one that follows its teachers regardless of their teachings.

Don't think there will be any snowflakes in Heaven
Gender is a social construct and only loosely connected with sex.
A predictable number of children are born with sex abnormalities.
A predictable number of all children have social abnormalities
even if fortunate enough not to have genetic problems. .
[h=3]The incidence of disorders of sexual differentiation and chromosomal [/h]
 

LibrarianLeo

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Bladerunner

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The incidence of disorders of sexual differentiation and chromosomal

So you are proposing snowflakes in hell?

I don't know about that.

[h=3]I don't know about that! - SNL[/h][/

If they do not repent (quit sinning) and accept Jesus Christ as their savior and His Gospel........ No, they will not be in heaven..

Sinning is the KEY WORD HERE! Rem, according to Jesus Christ and His authority (not me) Gay behavior regardless of what it is, is still an abominable SIN.
 

Ahwatukee

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Do you think transgenders go to heaven?
Greetings Grace10,

Yes, all sin is forgivable if the individual believes in Christ and repents of the sinful nature. That does not mean that we don't sin, but that we are in agreement with God that we are sinners and we have change of mind regarding our sinful nature, that it is against God.

When we come to Christ we have two natures, the old sinful nature and the new man in Christ. As we yield to the Spirit and continuing in faith, we are being transformed into the Lord image, taking on his qualities. The process is that, as we continue from faith to faith our new nature in Christ should be displacing the old sinful nature. Regarding this, scripture also states that the Spirit wars against the flesh and the flesh against the Spirit, for they are in conflict with each other.

That said, the problem that we have today is that, we have people who are willfully living same-sex life styles proclaiming to be in Christ, but without repentance. Instead of repenting they are justifying this sin and embracing it, because they refuse to give it up.

Jesus did not shed his blood in order to allow us to continue pursuing the sinful nature, but to turn away from it, to bring our bodies and actions under control.

Therefore, whether LGBTQ or any other letter, when they have faith in Christ and repent, at that point they begin their process of sanctification, i.e. the process of being made holy. Though God already sees us with the righteousness of Christ, in this body of sin we are being transformed into His image. When the church is gathered, where we are changed into our immortal and glorified bodies, then we will be immortal and will finally be fee of the sinful nature.

Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?


They would need to be praying to God to rescue them from those feelings because they are in agreement with Him that it is sin. If they fall because of their weakness, then they need to just keep going to God in prayer regarding those feelings and their weakness. The true Spirit filled believer will be wrestling against those desires. But, for those who are not wrestling to overcome, but are instead justifying and embracing those sexually immoral sins, then they have not even begun with Christ, because they are not in agreement with God regarding their sin.

Any sexual relations outside of marriage between a man and a women is sexual immorality and that includes self pleasuring.

I hope this makes sense to you.
 

FlSnookman7

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The incidence of disorders of sexual differentiation and chromosomal

So you are proposing snowflakes in hell?

I don't know about that.

I don't know about that! - SNL

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If they do not repent (quit sinning) and accept Jesus Christ as their savior and His Gospel........ No, they will not be in heaven..

Sinning is the KEY WORD HERE! Rem, according to Jesus Christ and His authority (not me) Gay behavior regardless of what it is, is still an abominable SIN.

"If they do not repent (quit sinning)"...Repent does not mean to quit sinning.
 

LibrarianLeo

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LibrarianLeo

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Bladerunner;3452576 [COLOR=#0000CD said:
If they do not repent (quit sinning) and accept Jesus Christ as their savior and His Gospel........ No, they will not be in heaven..

Sinning is the KEY WORD HERE! Rem, according to Jesus Christ and His authority (not me) Gay behavior regardless of what it is, is still an abominable SIN.[/COLOR]
Actually the sin is sex outside of marriage and promiscuity.
The fact that Lesbians are not condemned in the OT is an example of what the focus is.
 

notuptome

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Actually the sin is sex outside of marriage and promiscuity.
The fact that Lesbians are not condemned in the OT is an example of what the focus is.
Who said lesbians are not condemned in the OT? You?

Except ye be born again you will not see the kingdom of God. Liars do no inherit the kingdom of God. People who are one gender and want to appear as another are liars. Lying to themselves and to the God who created them.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

MichaelOwen

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Actually the sin is sex outside of marriage and promiscuity.
The fact that Lesbians are not condemned in the OT is an example of what the focus is.
Actually, the Word very much disproves this. When it is speaking of sexual immorality, that includes Lesbianism.
 

LibrarianLeo

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blue_ladybug

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Of course they're immoral. I know several lesbians, as well as 2 or 3 transgenders. Their lifestyle is immoral, and led to one of them being beat to death over their decision to (try to) become a man..

Likely you know a handful of lesbians and likely you don't consider them to be immoral people.
 

notuptome

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We all live with sin until death.

Gay teachers can identify gay children in grade school. If fact, other children
begin to bully gay toddlers very early and must work to maintain respect for all.
I hope you don't wish for gay toddlers to be bullied.
Gay toddlers? More likely the Sodomite teachers are endeavoring to convert toddlers not help them or protect them.

Sodomites can be converted to Christ but they cannot be Sodomites and be Christian at the same time. The Holy Spirit will not inhabit a polluted temple.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

MichaelOwen

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Gay toddlers? More likely the Sodomite teachers are endeavoring to convert toddlers not help them or protect them.

Sodomites can be converted to Christ but they cannot be Sodomites and be Christian at the same time. The Holy Spirit will not inhabit a polluted temple.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
So obviously this guy did not read my thread about Homosexuality.....but what do we know the Bible teaches against.....sexual immorality and that is at it's highest level.
 

LibrarianLeo

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Of course they're immoral. I know several lesbians, as well as 2 or 3 transgenders. Their lifestyle is immoral, and led to one of them being beat to death over their decision to (try to) become a man..
So they have been found guilty becasue they were beaten to death.
Do you think you would consider them innocent if they lived then?
Becasue I have read about this type of fact-finding justice before.
 

LibrarianLeo

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Gay toddlers? More likely the Sodomite teachers are endeavoring to convert toddlers not help them or protect them.Sodomites can be converted to Christ but they cannot be Sodomites and be Christian at the same time. The Holy Spirit will not inhabit a polluted temple.For the cause of Christ
Roger
You can "Likely" to keep your sanity, but I'm referring to
my wife, a 25 year career special ed teacher, and her co-workers.
 
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Only people exactly like you can go to heaven! Never let go of that.