Do you think transgenders go to heaven?
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Well now I see your vested interest in this matter. I wasn't clear on if you were a sodomite and defending your sin or something else.
You obviously have experience and first hand information that completely refutes God and the bible.
Gods word stands without apology. Deviant sexual preferences do not enter into the kingdom of God. Woe to these who cause the children to stumble.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You obviously have experience and first hand information that completely refutes God and the bible.
Gods word stands without apology. Deviant sexual preferences do not enter into the kingdom of God. Woe to these who cause the children to stumble.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Are you sure about that?
Job 38:22-23. Hast thou entered into the treasures of snow? — Dost thou know where I have laid up those vast quantities of snow and hail which I draw forth when I see fit? Dost thou know the causes of them, and the way to produce them? But if thou art unacquainted with these treasures, it is intolerable presumption in thee to pretend that thou knowest those treasures of wisdom which lie hid in my own breast. Which I have reserved — That is, which snow, and especially which hail, I have prepared, against the time of trouble — When I intend to bring trouble or calamity upon any country or people, for the punishment of their sins, or for their trial.
God talking about His storehouse of snow.....a lot of flakes there....
Job 38:22-23. Hast thou entered into the treasures of snow? — Dost thou know where I have laid up those vast quantities of snow and hail which I draw forth when I see fit? Dost thou know the causes of them, and the way to produce them? But if thou art unacquainted with these treasures, it is intolerable presumption in thee to pretend that thou knowest those treasures of wisdom which lie hid in my own breast. Which I have reserved — That is, which snow, and especially which hail, I have prepared, against the time of trouble — When I intend to bring trouble or calamity upon any country or people, for the punishment of their sins, or for their trial.
God talking about His storehouse of snow.....a lot of flakes there....
Our elder told us the story of a man -- in his homeland -- who turned woman. A few years later, that person started attending church service as a woman and wearing a veil, and a few months later affliction took control of her (his) mind.
Not long after that the guy got converted by the power of the Holy Spirit and deeply regretted his sex change operation. The whole congregation helped him pay a reversal surgery. Today he is a faithful and respected servant of God.
Obviously that guy had never been a woman, but I believe that some real women are born with male genitals. I saw one of these on TV a few years ago and she didn't look like a transgender -- she looked and sounded like a real and honorable woman.
Not long after that the guy got converted by the power of the Holy Spirit and deeply regretted his sex change operation. The whole congregation helped him pay a reversal surgery. Today he is a faithful and respected servant of God.
Obviously that guy had never been a woman, but I believe that some real women are born with male genitals. I saw one of these on TV a few years ago and she didn't look like a transgender -- she looked and sounded like a real and honorable woman.
If you imagine that all people are born without physical or social
disabilities according to scripture, then scripture has been properly
refuted, as you are reading it.
I have family members with both social and physical disabilities
and they are indeed my vested interest.
I also have a large number of neighbors that fit in a number of your categories.
[h=3]What Does the Bible Say About How To Treat Your Neighbor?[/h]
disabilities according to scripture, then scripture has been properly
refuted, as you are reading it.
I have family members with both social and physical disabilities
and they are indeed my vested interest.
I also have a large number of neighbors that fit in a number of your categories.
[h=3]What Does the Bible Say About How To Treat Your Neighbor?[/h]
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So your personal situation trumps what the bible teaches? People are not born with social disabilities, physical disabilities but social disabilities nope.
The consequences of sin are evidenced in society. This does not excuse sin but highlights the need for redemption.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The consequences of sin are evidenced in society. This does not excuse sin but highlights the need for redemption.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Really? People are not born with:
Is WebMD.com a biased source of Satanic information?
- intellectual disability;
- developmental disabilities;
- learning disabilities;
- spoken language disorders;
- written language disorders;
- attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD);
- traumatic brain injury (pediatric and adult);
- aphasia;
- dementia; and
- right-hemisphere damage.
- Desire disorders —lack of sexual desire or interest in sex
- Arousal disorders —inability to become physically aroused or excited during sexual activity
- Orgasm disorders —delay or absence of orgasm (climax)
- Pain disorders — pain during intercourse
Is WebMD.com a biased source of Satanic information?
LL, your Freudian philosophies won't wash here. With the exception of hermaphrodites, all are born with one or the other of sexes. Sexual orientation is a learned trait. Why else would God insist on our not tolerating it in our society?
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: It is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).
"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel" (Deuteronomy 23:17). I rest my case.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: It is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).
"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel" (Deuteronomy 23:17). I rest my case.
Let's see what Dr. Google has to say:
Reversal Surgery in Regretful Male-to-Female Transsexuals After Sex Reassignment Surgery.
Djordjevic ML1, Bizic MR2, Duisin D2, Bouman MB3, Buncamper M3.
Author information
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Sex reassignment surgery (SRS) has proved an effective intervention for patients with gender identity disorder. However, misdiagnosed patients sometimes regret their decision and request reversal surgery. This review is based on our experience with seven patients who regretted their decision to undergo male-to-female SRS.
AIMS:
To analyze retrospectively seven patients who underwent reversal surgery after regretting their decision to undergo male-to-female SRS elsewhere.
METHODS:
From November 2010 through November 2014, seven men 33 to 53 years old with previous male-to-female SRS underwent reversal phalloplasty. Preoperatively, they were examined by three independent psychiatrists. Surgery included three steps: removal of female genitalia with scrotoplasty and urethral lengthening, total phalloplasty with microvascular transfer of a musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi flap, and neophallus urethroplasty with penile prosthesis implantation.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Self-reported esthetic and psychosexual status after reversion surgery and International Index of Erectile Function scores for sexual health after phalloplasty and penile prosthesis implantation.
RESULTS:
Follow-up was 13 to 61 months (mean = 31 months). Good postoperative results were achieved in all patients. In four patients, all surgical steps were completed; two patients are currently waiting for penile implants; and one patient decided against the penile prosthesis. Complications were related to urethral lengthening: two fistulas and one stricture were observed. All complications were repaired by minor revision. According to patients' self-reports, all patients were pleased with the esthetic appearance of their genitalia and with their significantly improved psychological status.
CONCLUSION:
Reversal surgery in regretful male-to-female transsexuals after SRS represents a complex, multistage procedure with satisfactory outcomes. Further insight into the characteristics of persons who regret their decision postoperatively would facilitate better future selection of applicants eligible for SRS.
Copyright © 2016 International Society for Sexual Medicine. Published by Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
I don't know if sex change surgeries are reversible in Brazil, but possibly the guy didn't undergo a complete reversal surgery -- I think his main concern was to cut off the boobs so that he would look like a man again.
Reversal Surgery in Regretful Male-to-Female Transsexuals After Sex Reassignment Surgery.
Djordjevic ML1, Bizic MR2, Duisin D2, Bouman MB3, Buncamper M3.
Author information
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Sex reassignment surgery (SRS) has proved an effective intervention for patients with gender identity disorder. However, misdiagnosed patients sometimes regret their decision and request reversal surgery. This review is based on our experience with seven patients who regretted their decision to undergo male-to-female SRS.
AIMS:
To analyze retrospectively seven patients who underwent reversal surgery after regretting their decision to undergo male-to-female SRS elsewhere.
METHODS:
From November 2010 through November 2014, seven men 33 to 53 years old with previous male-to-female SRS underwent reversal phalloplasty. Preoperatively, they were examined by three independent psychiatrists. Surgery included three steps: removal of female genitalia with scrotoplasty and urethral lengthening, total phalloplasty with microvascular transfer of a musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi flap, and neophallus urethroplasty with penile prosthesis implantation.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Self-reported esthetic and psychosexual status after reversion surgery and International Index of Erectile Function scores for sexual health after phalloplasty and penile prosthesis implantation.
RESULTS:
Follow-up was 13 to 61 months (mean = 31 months). Good postoperative results were achieved in all patients. In four patients, all surgical steps were completed; two patients are currently waiting for penile implants; and one patient decided against the penile prosthesis. Complications were related to urethral lengthening: two fistulas and one stricture were observed. All complications were repaired by minor revision. According to patients' self-reports, all patients were pleased with the esthetic appearance of their genitalia and with their significantly improved psychological status.
CONCLUSION:
Reversal surgery in regretful male-to-female transsexuals after SRS represents a complex, multistage procedure with satisfactory outcomes. Further insight into the characteristics of persons who regret their decision postoperatively would facilitate better future selection of applicants eligible for SRS.
Copyright © 2016 International Society for Sexual Medicine. Published by Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
I don't know if sex change surgeries are reversible in Brazil, but possibly the guy didn't undergo a complete reversal surgery -- I think his main concern was to cut off the boobs so that he would look like a man again.
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Going transgender, you're pretty much slapping God in the face and saying you don't respect or like how he made you. Anything that's going to hurt my Lords heart like that, I personally try to stay away from. I believe the reason a person goes transgender is the same reason a person turns homosexual...being hurt a lot, and lost without Jesus Christ. But hey, Paul was the chiefest of sinners, and he was still saved by the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, so, transgenders, if they haven't been saved, can still come to know Christ, and realize the error of their ways, and turn from it. As long as they breath, there is still hope.