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The above post, which had NOTHING to do with my post proves that you have gone to seed on a working for dogma and at every turn will do nothing more than try to prove your invalid points.....how about use your head, lose the dogma and address my post with something that is applicable.....for the record....you can post verses ALL the day long out of context to try and prove a self help guru working for dogma and neither you or your false buddies will change my mind that salvation is based entirely upon faith dia grace and that said salvation is eternal based upon the applied blood and imputed righteousness of Christ.
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
He only comes as a thief to those who are in darkness........and the context is the last few verses of chapter 4...the resurrection/change
Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
He only comes as a thief to those who are in darkness........and the context is the last few verses of chapter 4...the resurrection/change
Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Amen.....my belief....the following are one day and it commences at the 7th trump of Revelation and in the order given....
a. Day of Lord commences when Jesus seizes earthly control of ALL kingdoms on the earth
b. Day of Christ commences as he rewards the prophets, saints and all who fear him young and old in the sky
c. Day of God commences as Jesus pours out his wrath on the planet after a and b
Jesus is LORD, CHRIST and GOD and in one day ALL three commence (at the 7th and final trump is my view)
a. Day of Lord commences when Jesus seizes earthly control of ALL kingdoms on the earth
b. Day of Christ commences as he rewards the prophets, saints and all who fear him young and old in the sky
c. Day of God commences as Jesus pours out his wrath on the planet after a and b
Jesus is LORD, CHRIST and GOD and in one day ALL three commence (at the 7th and final trump is my view)
WRONG Emphasis:
James 2:14-18 (NIV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?
[SUP]17 [/SUP] In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
THE EMPHASIS IS NOT DEEDS, IT IS LOVE.
JUST TO SHOW YOU, THAT YOU HAVE MISINTERPRETED THOSE VERSES, HERE IS GOD'S PARALLEL VERSES:
1 John 3:15-21 (NKJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
[SUP]18 [/SUP] My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God.
Romans 5:5-10 (NKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Now that should be simple enough that EVEN YOU can understand that YOU have TOTALLY misunderstood JAMES. We were Reconciled to GOD while we were STILL ENEMIES, therefore James is talking about HOW we are to know that the the HOLY SPIRIT is IN OUR HEARTS, and HOW THE LOVE FOR OTHERS, MANIFESTS THAT GOD'S LOVE IN OUR HEARTS, WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF OTHERS. NO BROTHERLY LOVE, MEANS YOU DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU.
I am aware of the prophecies in the OT.
Can you post me the link to your blog please.
Just remember I'm the man who struggles with Romans 7, to which you replied.
Then if memory serves me, I said "Yeh I get that"
Then a few days later I said "I don't get it"
Oh dear, this is what you are working with
Can you post me the link to your blog please.
Just remember I'm the man who struggles with Romans 7, to which you replied.
Then if memory serves me, I said "Yeh I get that"
Then a few days later I said "I don't get it"
Oh dear, this is what you are working with
I am aware of the prophecies in the OT.
Can you post me the link to your blog please.
Just remember I'm the man who struggles with Romans 7, to which you replied.
Then if memory serves me, I said "Yeh I get that"
Then a few days later I said "I don't get it"
Oh dear, this is what you are working with
Can you post me the link to your blog please.
Just remember I'm the man who struggles with Romans 7, to which you replied.
Then if memory serves me, I said "Yeh I get that"
Then a few days later I said "I don't get it"
Oh dear, this is what you are working with
Under My Book on the 2nd Coming of Christ
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New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”
