Not By Works
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OH, DC, you forgot to point the one HE hates the most, is one who sows DISCORD among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16-19 (ESV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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AMEN....his left over half baked lasagna analogy and failure to trust Christ speaks volumes.....
OK....define works of wood, hay and stubble as opposed to gold silver and precious stones...both saved and believers......
He broke the rules......maybe your bias does not allow you to see that..........what is sad is one who will ignore the facts and then make statements like you made.....now that is sad!
Paul is making a point from romans 6- the fuirst part of chapter eight. its dangerous to divide it into One verse applies while one doesnt it forms a context and He is actually delivering a message rather than making a bunch of points.
paul is explaining How the commandment produces sin in man in chapter 7. " Once I was alive apart from the Law, but when the commandment came , sin revived and I died...what was ordained unto Life, actually became death to me. for sin ceizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment deceived me."
in chapter 6 he explains what the crucifixion means to the believer and chapter 7 He goes into why it had to be that way, chapter 8 is Him explaining the soulution toi the double nature that keeps us a prisoner to " the Law of sin within our members" if you remove chapter 6 and 8, its Hard to see the message of whats Being said. chapter 7 is not about pauls own self alone its about mans sinful nature, and chapter 8 is the solution to that issue.
thank you for your question. it is for privacy to the person who was banned. They may gust in here and see a mod telling other why they were banned that is not cool. but what I can tell you is many do not know why some do leave. and ask for their member ship to be closed.
1. they were warned by a Mod one time
2. no longer wanting to be here.
3. come back under a new name
4. banned by for only a short time then able to come back.
5. No one will agree with me.
Mod's are not to provide that info on former members. I hope you understand that .
You didn't think a person deceived of being sinless would receive correction from the word of God, right?
Isn't it of interest a deceived person who thinks he is sinless is re-writing scripture to suit himself?
Yep....His verbiage speaks volumes...such as
Jesus-->Let him who is WITHOUT SIN cast the first stone
HIM-->Who ever does not COMMIT SIN cast the first stone
Yes, I saw this. PJW needs to be brought to light, Scripture clearly teaches those who claim to be sinless are deceived. I pray God sets him free.
This interpretation sounds great, and is certainly the one you want to swear by if you consider yourself to be perfect ((Paul didn't, btw)) - that is, it sounds great until you notice that the whole chapter is in present tense apart from the cherry you picked contextlessly out of verse 5.
Then this interpretation falls apart completely.
If you move on to 8:1, which begins 'therefore..' and realise that Paul reaches a conclusion based on everything he has said just prior to this, in particular being summarised in the last verse or two of chapter 7, which immediately precedes 8:1, you find a radically different understanding which blows works-based salvation apart and gives the believer an amazing reason to praise God in such a way that it is impossible to hold any amount of pride or self righteousness while doing so, and provides a blueprint of a profound basis for the thankfulness we are commanded to give in all things.