The Gun Thread

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Good to know. I can handle recoil okay, but I'm not well practiced in it since I shoot 9mm and 5.56 mainly.

Really helpful. Thanks!

Grandpa said:
The initial cost would be about the same as a bolt action .308

Check out the ballistics between the 300 win mag and .308 to see which would suit you best.

The .308 has almost no recoil compared to the 300 win mag. So if you are recoil sensitive you might think about a heavy barrel and a recoil pad. Or just sticking with the .308

I have a .308 savage with a heavy barrel and it is by far my most accurate rifle at 100yds. I have a 300 win mag remington 700 with a heavy barrel that I use for hunting. The ballistics are better and it bucks the wind better too because of the heavier bullet weight.

My hunting buddy has a tikka lightweight 300 wsm that weighs half of what my 300 win mag does but he can't shoot it accurately because of all the recoil. Something to think about depending on what you will use it for.
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SovereignGrace said:
Not for sure this is true...

But I heard a fellow down the road from us had a .12 Guage Polk stalk that would jar your fillings loose. He put the butt of the stalk against a tree and squeezed the trigger and made himself a nice pile of toothpicks.

I had a .12 Guage H&R Topper model 158 that with a 3" mag almost knocked my glasses off my head. Kicked like a mule.
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I have a 12 ga Topper that I bought as a cut down "truck gun".... just barely long enough to be legal. The buttstock had been cut off just behind the pistol grip area, so shooting it from the shoulder is not really a viable option.

It's more a two-hand, shoot from the hip kind of thing.... and is not too punishing in that role.

One day while shooting it, I decided I needed to "test" it, firing it one handed (like one would have to do, if firing it out a truck window? :confused:) I started with some quail loads... not too bad. I then shot a heavier, pheasant type load... now that was beginning to have some "thump" on my end. My mistake was wanting more.... I shot a 00 Buck load out of it. I thought it had literally broken my middle finger... the one behind the trigger guard.

One handed, with buckshot, will be a last-ditch, life or death kind of thing from now on.... with death being a close second...

Two handed, from the hip, buckshot is ok, because your arms act as shock absorbers, slowing down the recoil before it hurts you.... but it takes a very firm grip with the forward hand on the forend.
 
GaryA said:
I have heard the stories. I was not there. I would probably not judge too harshly what anyone had to do to survive. However -- for whatever cases that may have been true -- I hardly think there was ever a reason - or, that it was involuntary - to rape...

Unless someone puts a gun to your head and says:

"Rape that woman / girl or die!"

:confused:

I would probably have to consider "taking the bullet"...

Unless I was so thoroughly convinced that doing so would somehow save her life or prevent her from being severly tortured or something like that --- I just don't imagine that there is ever really a good enough reason to do something like that...
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I agree... I'm not saying they WERE rapists and murderers, but that's what the brainwashed hippies were calling them when they arrived at airports... spitting on them, etc. The hippies would find out when a plane with returning GI's was landing, and be there to greet them with that type of thing..

Just try to imagine being forced to go to war, to fight in jungles, for something you didn't understand. But you had to do your job...being told you were fighting "for your country"... only to come home to your own countrymen spitting on you and calling you vile names... all of this after the severe emotional trauma of war, seeing your brothers being blown apart, and having them die in your arms.

It was, and still is, shameful.
 
Start a "car thread'----I'd do it myself but I don't want to get blamed for some guy getting excited and spending his daughter's college fund money on a 69 Chevelle SS
 
SovereignGrace said:
I once owned a 30.06. It was a Ruger Mark II with stainless steel and black synthetic stalk. The shop I bought it from also bore-sighted my Nikon 3x9 scope for me. From 50 yards, I was hitting within an inch of where I aimed. Never touched the scope after that.
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It's hard to beat a good 30-06.... will do just about anything....

But ... aint many troubles that a man cain't fix with seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six."
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Desdichado said:
I'm reading 30-06 are easier to re-load which I may get into someday.
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I've reloaded both, and don't find any significant differences. They are ballistic twins, with the 06 having a slight edge when loading bullets over 180gr or so...more case capacity.
Which you pay for by having to use a "long" action, instead of a short action rifle. Not a huge deal to me, but some folks think it makes a difference.
 
Man, I see merits for all the .3- rounds. This will be a hard decision. Thank God I have time to make it. :P

I also have other things on my list.
 
Yes... the 338 would be good for loooong range hunting/sniping. Downside... heavier recoil, quite a bit more expensive, very difficult to find factory ammo (in out of the way places)

30-06 is a classic, do-everything round. Great for everything but perhaps the big bears, and it will work on them, if necessary. Downside... long action versus short action.. about 3/4" difference, max.

308... ballistic twin to the '06, can be chambered in a short action rifle, has been regularly used in 1000yd target matches, as has the 30-06. Very likely the easiest to find ammo for, but probably tied by the '06. Nearly everyplace sells 30-06, 270, 243, 308 ammo. Cheapest to shoot, especially if using surplus ammo.
 
Gun Priorities:

1. Finish up my pistols.

New sights for my Glock
New appendix holster for my PPS M2
Replace my old defensive ammo with Speer Gold Dot when it's on sale

2. Gun Safe

3. Shore up home defense with a long gun that won't entirely kill my hearing.

If the HPA goes through-

Get a suppressor
Value AR-15
MORE 5.56
Light attachment
Light

If the HPA doesn't go through-

Home defense shotgun
Light attachment
Light

4. A designated, hard-hitting hunting rifle.

5. Glock 40 MOS because it's awesome and totally score me points with Top Gun Tori Nonaka.

5. As much as I want to say "done" I know that whenever I reach this state of bliss, it won't be over. Historical firearms with no practical purpose will beckon.
 
What do you think of .300 WM, brother?

hornetguy said:
Yes... the 338 would be good for loooong range hunting/sniping. Downside... heavier recoil, quite a bit more expensive, very difficult to find factory ammo (in out of the way places)

30-06 is a classic, do-everything round. Great for everything but perhaps the big bears, and it will work on them, if necessary. Downside... long action versus short action.. about 3/4" difference, max.

308... ballistic twin to the '06, can be chambered in a short action rifle, has been regularly used in 1000yd target matches, as has the 30-06. Very likely the easiest to find ammo for, but probably tied by the '06. Nearly everyplace sells 30-06, 270, 243, 308 ammo. Cheapest to shoot, especially if using surplus ammo.
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Desdichado said:
2. Gun Safe
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I found a cheap gun safe for you, conveniently disguised as a refrigerator.
5. As much as I want to say "done" I know that whenever I reach this state of bliss, it won't be over. Historical firearms with no practical purpose will beckon.
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