getting dates about a young earth

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do you believe the dinosaurs are part of "all the wild animals" that God formed out of the ground?

I do. I know science has established they were not evolved into birds, which are established in the fossil record and preceding dinosaurs, just as Genesis 1 says. If it has feathers, it was a bird. If someone decides predictable chemical reactions amount directly to feathers, then evolution "theory' is heavily suspected.
 
it just says
"the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals."

not all possible species today, imo.

a related issue comes to my mind,

"the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them"

did God form the dinosaurs, and bring them to adam to get named?

Is it possible some evolutionists like you believe all original species escaped extinction, throughout all time?

All the "evolutionists" (unbelievers) I know believe most are gone, there being a small remnant of the original number. That belief has moved on to a great effort to halt future extermination, to wit, polar bears.
 
Where in scripture is that established?

After epoch 4, in the Gen 1 narrative.



I am well acquainted with the evolutionist predictions, which are not supported by science observations. What, then, do you base that upon? Why not let dinosaurs simply be part of the original creation of God? There is no science evidence to the contrary.

Again...

I'm not an evolutionist....so save your lectures for someone who might care...
 
Not when taking the absolute value of the power of God's spoken word, able to establish creation according to his mind and purpose, in a nanosecond of time, if that long.

He could have.....but He didn't.

Instead of fantasizing about what could be....face the facts of what is...
 
There is no scientific evidence of extermination of some animal species did not occur between Adam and Noah. Therefore, science can't establish the number of species saved on the ark. Whatever species were saved to repopulate was up to God, who sent pairs of animal species to Noah.

Thus...as already stated...it would be the animals directly in contact with humans.
 
Where, anywhere in scripture is that supported? The only departure is a worldview that Adam somehow lived millions of years to develop to the point of reproduction by adding a female while he slept.

You're stuck in that hard loop of yours...thinking evolution.

Get over yourself...
 
Adam was created, while Jesus was birthed. There is a difference. One is made from scratch, the other is begotten from that which lived before. The effective seed for Jesus was from the Father, not from Adam's flesh lineage.


You reply without reading.

The post was about Adam in relation to Eve.

Wake up...
 

I have seen some intelligent people believe in YEC, but bowman cuts the cake,, He can't believe the things he says, unless he really is that .... (I do not want to say the word) ..

Do you mean OEC? Because I would agree. And I do think OECers can be Christians. After all, it's Christ and Him crucified. That said, it's not a consistent faith.
 
There are many difficult things to believe in the Bible, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't believe they're true. For example, Samson killed 1,000 men! That's crazy. Yes, had the Spirit of the Lord resting upon him, but that's still hard to believe. Doesn't mean it's not true though.
 
For those who played sports have ever envisioned the zone as they call it. I remember playing football and when I broke through the line it was like everyone was in slow motion, but I was at full speed. Every time this happened I went for a touchdown or for a long gain. I was in the zone and it also would explain how when The Spirit of God would come upon a man and He would kill 100 men. What are your thoughts on this.
 
possibly true, though I think a person can have a satisfying life eating commercially grown foods, or mostly animals, as many Native American peoples did.

Native American "indians" didn't plow the plains year by year, but lived off the land's voluntary production. They historically followed closely to the way God commanded Israel to use the land. He commanded rests for the land. We today suffer for not recognizing the natural need to let soil replenish. The American model is crop rotation, and" set-asides". That's

from Hebrews 6, "For the land which has drunk the rain that comes often on it, and produces a crop suitable for them for whose sake it is also tilled, receives blessing from God; but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is rejected and near being cursed" does God bless and curse the same land?
how can something be cursed and near being cursed?

Men that obey God are blessed of all their hands do. Those that disobey fail of their own hands. Even some wicked wealthy people know that principle, applying the principles of God to their part of an economy. Even though the Law prescribed how to treat the land, it was God who established the right way that works throughout the ages.

I think there is a relationship between land being well-watered, and plants growing well on it.

that first garden is well-watered, has a river to water it.

Most of our food supply is grain-based, coming from plains states where rivers have nothing to do with the crops, like wheat.
 
it just says
"the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals."

not all possible species today, imo.



a related issue comes to my mind,

"the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them"

did God form the dinosaurs, and bring them to adam to get named?

I believe that God brought them to man as and when they came in contact, The naming was a process taking months or even years.

Adam was responsible for naming them for then all would know who was 'master', just as God had named creation.
 
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His Creator, God, raised Adam.

God was in human form all throughout the OT....where, exactly, have you been?

As a literalist, you need to start using your head, and believe that God literally walked through the garden in the cool of the day...


So God changed his diapers. Cleaned his behind, and did all the things a parent has to do for a baby?

Sometimes you just have to use some common sense.
 
Adam was created, while Jesus was birthed. There is a difference. One is made from scratch, the other is begotten from that which lived before. The effective seed for Jesus was from the Father, not from Adam's flesh lineage.

It shows the love of God.. Who had the power to create an older body and enter it, to be messiah.. But chose to be the "son of abraham" (savior) the "son of David" (king)

there is absolutely no reason for Adam to be "created" a baby, but there is ample reason for Jesus to be "born of a virgin"

some people just like to argue
 
Do you mean OEC? Because I would agree. And I do think OECers can be Christians. After all, it's Christ and Him crucified. That said, it's not a consistent faith.
Yes I did, thank you for showing my mistake.. And I agree, It is the cross of Christ,, Not how old we think the earth is..
 
Jesus is God....and He had the very same things done to HIM!!!!

Your head...use it.

I am

Adam was created for a purpose (to inhabit and take care of the earth). Him being a baby defeats that purpose.

God was born a baby for a purpose. (the son of man) him being created an adult would defeat that purpose.

sometimes we just have to have common sense..
 
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Adam was created for a purpose (to inhabit and take care of the earth). Him being a baby defeats that purpose.

God was born a baby for a purpose. (the son of man) him being created an adult would defeat that purpose.

sometimes we just have to have common sense..


So...

According to YOU, Jesus was NOT God when He was brought into this world as a babe.
 
Do you mean OEC? Because I would agree. And I do think OECers can be Christians. After all, it's Christ and Him crucified. That said, it's not a consistent faith.

The main thing about a Christian believing in any part of evolution is that belief is opposed to the plainly written scriptures.

The one terrible result is once a young Christian gets to college, public or private, however much of it was taken there is magnified many fold per science course. A plague on the churches they grew up in is a wholesale departure of them from any religion. Few are prepared to defend themselves against the atheist community that prevails there. Students are forced to learn it well, now built in to every science field, through a massive abuse of the true science method. Evolution is now declared science, even though not meeting the requirements of science. Belief in it is enforced by professors, even many that intimidate Christians, and peer pressures that are highly negative. A Christian either lives with it all to graduate, or drops to the bottom of the class.

So I agree it's slightly possible for a Christian to believe in evolution and be known as a disciple of Jesus besides, but I know that is a major stumbling block for youth. If Genesis is at all discredited, a book upon which Judaism and much of the essentials of Christianity are founded, then the whole Bible becomes a target of scoffers. They are brainwashed in steps from grade school upwards, the intensity growing year by year. Schools have figured out how to avoid alarming parents until the students are adults, then they go for the spiritual kill.

It can be argued some were not really Christian before college, so were easy prey. I've met precious few parents who could balance truth against fiction at home, teaching children how to recognize false teaching. A few home-schooled children get that training, a big reason for parents to bite that bullet early on.