getting dates about a young earth

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As a YEC, you put Adam over that of Jesus Christ.

You have the gall to have Adam coming into this world as an Adult....over that of Jesus Christ coming into this world as a babe!

Jesus was conceived in the uterus of mary, and was in there for several months, I think nine.

is adam conceived somewhere, or is he formed from the dust as a newborn?
 
I suppose different numbers would be arrived at using different methods.

like, is adam naming every species? or family?
does he name both black bear and brown bear, or does he just name 'bear'?

or, does adam naming every beast of the field mean that adam gave person names to each individual animal, like we name pets today?

how did you arrive at one or two million?
did at least two of each named animal or animal type travel to the ark?

LOL the Flood was supposed to take place in 2500 BC per yec dates. Do you actually believe that since them all the species have developed?,

there are over a million species today.
 
That is the Bible view. God is who did it that way. Man was made a full modern man, while Jesus was born a babe as prophesied. Your argument is with God, who is not on record agreeing with any worldview.

You need to ask yourself why it is that Jesus is referred to as the second Adam, in the first place.

Why the comparison; if one came into the world as a man and the other as a babe.




By the way, human fossils from caves are establishing that there were no different species of man. The popular art poster of a parade of creatures, from ape gradually transforming to an erect modern man has corrupted untold numbers of minds. The fact is that all humans were the same as today, though genetically isolated to develop after the Tower of Babel caught God's attention. Apes have always been apes, birds have always been birds, dinosaurs were dinosaurs, bears bears, whales whales.

I'm not an evolutionist....so save it.



It's obvious some claiming to be Christian are desperately seeking a way out of God's way. Open your eyes, lest Satan finally seal them shut forever.

Satan is bound and has no power over me.
 
So who was going to raise adam? Was he raised by Apes? Was he called Tarzan king of the jungle???

You do not think at all do you?? All you did my making this statement is prove you have no desire to discuss anything.. Your right, everyone else is wrong thats it. end of story.

And you are still here how??


His Creator, God, raised Adam.

God was in human form all throughout the OT....where, exactly, have you been?

As a literalist, you need to start using your head, and believe that God literally walked through the garden in the cool of the day...

 
God planted the first garden, let Adam tend it. Upon his sin the ground fell under the same curse man and all of creation did, produce from the ground requiring much labor with sweat of the brow. It's still a constant struggle to raise crops where weeds, insects, diseases, drought and floods oppose that effort. Men sweat a little less now due to greater technology, but that has brought about GMOs designed to resist those problems, resulting in food we might not find healthy. Non-GMO foods are becoming more popular as the science world begins to cast doubt on the new technology.

The healthiest way is to deal with the curse of those problems, plant heritage seed, break out the hoe, and plant lots of marigolds and other species that repel bugs, and turn a handful of ladybugs loose once a month. You can buy them by the pound. But because of the curse, you will still sweat, and be sore and hot, sunburned often.

possibly true, though I think a person can have a satisfying life eating commercially grown foods, or mostly animals, as many Native American peoples did.

from Hebrews 6,
"For the land which has drunk the rain that comes often on it, and produces a crop suitable for them for whose sake it is also tilled, receives blessing from God; but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is rejected and near being cursed"

does God bless and curse the same land?

how can something be cursed and near being cursed?



I think there is a relationship between land being well-watered, and plants growing well on it.

that first garden is well-watered, has a river to water it.

but adam and eve have to leave the garden, and maybe God alters the seasons at that time too,
maybe too long summers, not enough spring rains,
and growing food is a real struggle.

after the flood, God says there will always be regular seasons.
 
I know farmers, they spend alot of money for fertilizer and weed control Because the ground is still cursed.

I plant gardens myself. Every year I have trouble with weeds, and stuff not growing like it would in an uncursed earth

I have a yard i have spent countless hours toiling in pain to get in good shape. after 4 years, it still is not there yet.

The earth is still cursed, and growning, Until The lord returns and restore's it.



I doubt we will agree with this.. so better to move on.

sure, I'm fine with moving on.

I agree, too, that creation is still groaning.
 
LOL the Flood was supposed to take place in 2500 BC per yec dates. Do you actually believe that since them all the species have developed?,

there are over a million species today.

it just says
"the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals."

not all possible species today, imo.



a related issue comes to my mind,

"the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them"

did God form the dinosaurs, and bring them to adam to get named?
 
I think adam was created first so they would have different roles.

"a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man."

and

"through one man sin entered into the world."


If one was created first, then one is older than the other.

Simple.
 
Jesus was conceived in the uterus of mary, and was in there for several months, I think nine.

is adam conceived somewhere, or is he formed from the dust as a newborn?


Just as Jesus came into this world as a babe, thus did Adam.

You YEC's strain scripture when forcing events in 24hrs.
 
do you believe the dinosaurs are part of "all the wild animals" that God formed out of the ground?

Dinos were created after the sun and moon were visible from the surface of the earth....so that the bio clocks of higher life forms could be regulated.
 
God did say He cursed the ground to Adam because of what he did. But that still didn't account for the event in Jeremiah 4:23-28 where God showed He placed this earth in a state of bondage with the earth mourning.

If you really understood Jeremiah's role, you wouldn't post that. Therefore, you are excused for now until another wrong application of scripture.

Jeremiah was given a message from God that if Israel continued to rebel, that blessed nation would go to GO without collecting the $200 (Monopoly), as an example. The nation would lose it's perecived blessings, to endure a reset button action to Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. Chaos.

God was promising Jeremiah, who was passing a promise to Israel, that God would not utterly abandon Israel for spiritual adultery. However, the nation would pay a heavy price for rebellion (national sin). The analogy from God was a direct reference to Genesis 1. God was determined to reset Israel from the beginning of old, then bring Israel back up to his plan for Israel.

What the prophet Jeremiah said of Israel would happen....happened to Israel.
What the prophet Jeremiah had to pass on was not a reset of Genesis 1. It was the basis of what would happen if Israel would not repent, based on how God turned the Genesis 1 chaos into order.
 
Dinos were created after the sun and moon were visible from the surface of the earth....so that the bio clocks of higher life forms could be regulated.

Where in scripture is that established? I am well acquainted with the evolutionist predictions, which are not supported by science observations. What, then, do you base that upon? Why not let dinosaurs simply be part of the original creation of God? There is no science evidence to the contrary.
 
Just as Jesus came into this world as a babe, thus did Adam.

You YEC's strain scripture when forcing events in 24hrs.

Not when taking the absolute value of the power of God's spoken word, able to establish creation according to his mind and purpose, in a nanosecond of time, if that long.
 
The animals that Adam interfaced with.

There is no scientific evidence of extermination of some animal species did not occur between Adam and Noah. Therefore, science can't establish the number of species saved on the ark. Whatever species were saved to repopulate was up to God, who sent pairs of animal species to Noah.
 
Just as Jesus came into this world as a babe, thus did Adam.

You YEC's strain scripture when forcing events in 24hrs.

Where, anywhere in scripture is that supported? The only departure is a worldview that Adam somehow lived millions of years to develop to the point of reproduction by adding a female while he slept.
 
If one was created first, then one is older than the other.

Simple.

Adam was created, while Jesus was birthed. There is a difference. One is made from scratch, the other is begotten from that which lived before. The effective seed for Jesus was from the Father, not from Adam's flesh lineage.