Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Scriptural proof on this one please !!!
The bible says nobody has ascended up to heaven yet except for Jesus, and shows that at the 1st resurrection the dead in Christ (OT and NT saints that have died) will rise first and then we who are still alive will be caught up with them in the clouds to be forever with the Lord.
The dead in Christ can not rise to be with Him if they are already with Him !!!
Original sin is not a Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church because the Roman Catholic Church was not around when Eve ate the Fruit.
The Doctrine of sin is that the sin of Adam was passed on to everybody, not the sin of Eve.
This is what Paul was saying in the Book of Romans mwc68. You will notice here in the verse the Holy Spirit is also saying ALL have sinned, even Mary mwc68.
Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Why do you always put the Roman Catholic Church above God mwc68? Why do you always give credit to the Roman Catholic Church when the credit belongs to God mwc68?
Will you ever listen to the Holy Spirit mwc68? Or will you keep on fighting the Holy Spirit mwc68?
The Doctrine of sin is that the sin of Adam was passed on to everybody, not the sin of Eve.
This is what Paul was saying in the Book of Romans mwc68. You will notice here in the verse the Holy Spirit is also saying ALL have sinned, even Mary mwc68.
Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Why do you always put the Roman Catholic Church above God mwc68? Why do you always give credit to the Roman Catholic Church when the credit belongs to God mwc68?
Will you ever listen to the Holy Spirit mwc68? Or will you keep on fighting the Holy Spirit mwc68?
You still do not understand nor can you see the sins you are committing against God by teachings the corrupted doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church above the Truth from God mwc68.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is not God.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church does not have the Truth.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is not the Church that Jesus built.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is a counterfeit and is not the True Church.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church has made up false doctrines about Mary that are not in the Scriptures.
There is nothing the Roman Catholic Church can do for you that God cannot do for you mwc68. God is greater than the Roman Catholic Church, God is greater than Mary, and God never needed the help of Mary in keeping His Son Jesus Christ without sin.
Until you realize how deceiving the Roman Catholic Church is mwc68 you will never experience the Love God has for you.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is not God.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church does not have the Truth.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is not the Church that Jesus built.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church is a counterfeit and is not the True Church.
You must understand that the Roman Catholic Church has made up false doctrines about Mary that are not in the Scriptures.
There is nothing the Roman Catholic Church can do for you that God cannot do for you mwc68. God is greater than the Roman Catholic Church, God is greater than Mary, and God never needed the help of Mary in keeping His Son Jesus Christ without sin.
Until you realize how deceiving the Roman Catholic Church is mwc68 you will never experience the Love God has for you.
Paul declared that it was better to depart and be with Christ which is far better (Phil 1,23).
He declared that to be absent from the body was to be present with the Lord in a house from Heaven (2 Cor 5.1-7).
The dead saints are living and reigning with Christ in Heaven (Rev 20.4-5).
indeed we are living and reigning with Christ in Heaven (Eph 2.5-6).
The body is laid in the grave, but the spirit returns to the God Who gave it.
you must differentiate the first resurrection with Christ in which His people participate, and the second resurrection which is the physical resurrection
He declared that to be absent from the body was to be present with the Lord in a house from Heaven (2 Cor 5.1-7).
The dead saints are living and reigning with Christ in Heaven (Rev 20.4-5).
indeed we are living and reigning with Christ in Heaven (Eph 2.5-6).
The body is laid in the grave, but the spirit returns to the God Who gave it.
you must differentiate the first resurrection with Christ in which His people participate, and the second resurrection which is the physical resurrection
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James 5:19-20
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
All we are trying to do mwc68 is turn you back to the Truth that God has for you mwc68. You have wandered away from the Truth by listening to the Roman Catholic Church.
Its God and God only you need to listen to mwc68. No Pope, no Bishop, no Catholic Priest, has the Truth mwc68. Only God has the Truth and He gave it to us in His Book the Bible which is from the Holy Spirit and is not from the Roman Catholic Church.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
All we are trying to do mwc68 is turn you back to the Truth that God has for you mwc68. You have wandered away from the Truth by listening to the Roman Catholic Church.
Its God and God only you need to listen to mwc68. No Pope, no Bishop, no Catholic Priest, has the Truth mwc68. Only God has the Truth and He gave it to us in His Book the Bible which is from the Holy Spirit and is not from the Roman Catholic Church.
I don't know about others, but I am not self-righteous. I am the righteousness of God in Christ.
I don't NEED to be right. I believe what is right, thanks to my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
I don't NEED to be right. I believe what is right, thanks to my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
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I hope you stay and learn more about the darkness and lie catholic is. For your own salvation.
Some experts say :
RCC believe Pope is representative God on earth.
God is the King of kings.
The King of king rule all the kings in the world.
mean Pope must rule all the kings in the world.
That why he want to create new world order.
To build a giant building in the settle area, first step is ground breaking. destroy all the building, level it.
To build a giant government, one must destroy all the existing government.
How
Make it weak, create war, ISIS etc.
That is why David Icke said, ISIS is globalist creation.
One world government must support by.
One world religion.
One world monetary system.
These link bellow is an example of what Vatican doing to prepare One world government, install Pope as representative Jesus on earth.
Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion
thetruthwins.com/.../pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-world-religion
Feb 23, 2014 - If Pope Francis really did want to reach out to Protestants, he should start by .... Just a few short decades ago, a one world religion would have been ......beings as imaginary believe that govt is a benevolent higher being.
The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes
www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
Forbes
Oct 25, 2011 - ... from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government: ... preparing us for the life after this one that's no bad thing of course, ...
Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion Alex ...
www.infowars.com/pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-worl...
Alex Jones
Feb 24, 2014 - And “global governance” (as the elite like to call it) is also steadily ... for International Settlements, global governments are working together to a ...
Vatican calls for One World Government. Really. | The ...
www.theamericanconservative.com/.../vatica...
The American Conservative
Oct 24, 2011 - As the Pope reminds us, if this road is not followed, “despite the .... Is this really what the world wants and needs replicated on a global scale?
WHOOPS! Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government
www.businessinsider.com/whoops-vatican-lets-slip-plans...
Business Insider
Oct 24, 2011 - The second factor is the need for a minimum, shared body of rules to ...(Here we thought the Catholic Church and the Popes were in the business of ... A statement that the world government should be empowered to deal with ...
Some experts say :
RCC believe Pope is representative God on earth.
God is the King of kings.
The King of king rule all the kings in the world.
mean Pope must rule all the kings in the world.
That why he want to create new world order.
To build a giant building in the settle area, first step is ground breaking. destroy all the building, level it.
To build a giant government, one must destroy all the existing government.
How
Make it weak, create war, ISIS etc.
That is why David Icke said, ISIS is globalist creation.
One world government must support by.
One world religion.
One world monetary system.
These link bellow is an example of what Vatican doing to prepare One world government, install Pope as representative Jesus on earth.
Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion
thetruthwins.com/.../pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-world-religion
Feb 23, 2014 - If Pope Francis really did want to reach out to Protestants, he should start by .... Just a few short decades ago, a one world religion would have been ......beings as imaginary believe that govt is a benevolent higher being.
The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes
www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
Forbes
Oct 25, 2011 - ... from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government: ... preparing us for the life after this one that's no bad thing of course, ...
Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion Alex ...
www.infowars.com/pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-worl...
Alex Jones
Feb 24, 2014 - And “global governance” (as the elite like to call it) is also steadily ... for International Settlements, global governments are working together to a ...
Vatican calls for One World Government. Really. | The ...
www.theamericanconservative.com/.../vatica...
The American Conservative
Oct 24, 2011 - As the Pope reminds us, if this road is not followed, “despite the .... Is this really what the world wants and needs replicated on a global scale?
WHOOPS! Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government
www.businessinsider.com/whoops-vatican-lets-slip-plans...
Business Insider
Oct 24, 2011 - The second factor is the need for a minimum, shared body of rules to ...(Here we thought the Catholic Church and the Popes were in the business of ... A statement that the world government should be empowered to deal with ...
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None of those scriptures you give show they are in heaven already.......
Philippians 1:23, Corinthians 5:1-7, and Ephesians 2:5-6 is speaking mentally in a spiritual sense that we who obey the gospel of Christ are already seated in heaven with Christ. They are not stating that they are actually physically there yet.
Revelations 20:4-5 does say this but this is after the 1st Resurrection has taken place, not before it.
I know the difference between the 1st and 2nd Resurrections, and when they both take place.
The 1st Resurrection happens after the GT before God's wrath is poured out and the 1,000 year reign of Christ begins. And the 2nd Resurrection takes place after the 1,000 years have finished.
1 Thessalonians 4 is the picture of the 1st Resurrection where it says the dead in Christ will rise first and then we who are alive and remain will be caught up with them and forever we will be with the Lord. This passage is not talking about 2 Resurrections, for this all takes place in the 1st Resurrection.
If you try to say 1 Thessalonians is speaking of both, then you are saying the ones who are alive in Christ will face judgment and the lake of fire. Because the bible clearly says those in the 2nd Resurrection will have to face this judgment....
Only those who take part in the 1st Resurrection do not have to worry about this judgment when standing before God.
If you say the dead in Christ are already in heaven then you are saying the 1st Resurrection has already taken place, Apostle Paul says those that believe this way have been deceived !!!