Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

ZNP

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You‘re acting the fool, and so is anyone else here that is supporting you in this matter. But enough of you.
Not a very Christian thing to say.

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
 

Moses_Young

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There were some bacterial vaccines they tried which of course did not work on the Spanish influenza. My grandfather had no vaccine in war torn Ukraine. Neither did his friends. His friends died, he did not!
How did he know his friends did not take the vaccine? It's not like if they took it just before they died, they would be able to tell him. Look at how doctors, government and the media today are trying desperately to hide all the vaxx-deaths. And that is with the internet. Imagine how easy it would be for them to hide the deaths without.

Most vaccines do work, and they help. For instance, small pox had a vaccine which was actually made from cow pox. Milk maids all have cow pox sooner or later, then they never got small pox. This vaccine made you very sick for a day or so. I remember being so sick from it. Of course, small pox has been defeated because of the vaccine. I take a pneumococcus vaccine which has dramatically lowered my incidence of pneumonias. Before my husband got the pneumococcus vaccine, he'd get so sick he would end up in the ICU almost dead. Since he had that vaccine, he has never gotten sick like he did before it. He hasn't been in the ICU since 2008.
Most vaccines (probably all) don't work. Hence anti-vaxxers. The milk maids still got "cow pox". How did they know it was "cow pox" and not "small pox"? Did you know they "cured" polio by renaming it something else? Just like they got rid of influenza for a year by renaming it covid. Now the flu has come back, given they aren't calling every case "covid".


Polio has been an important vaccine. Polio was a terrible disease that either maimed people or killed them. We got Hep A& B done, and we have no health problems when we travel to places that have Hep A& B.
The polio vaccine causes polio. Even the lamestream news now admits it, to try to regain some of their credibility.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290

You are confused. The COVID vaxes were experimental. They were not tried long enough, plus the excluded whole categories from their clinical trials. Like people with autoimmune disorders. I was not hurt at all by the 3 vaxes I took, not even a sore arm. Maybe I am used to taking needles? My objection, for me, is that it didn't protect me from getting COVID, or a milder case. Mine turned into
Pneumonia, And had I not gotten monoclonal antibodies I would have died.
You claim that you weren't harmed. Come back and tell me that in 2 years, or 3. If you're able to tell me you weren't harmed in 3 years, I'll admit there's a good chance you were right.


Vaccines are not evil. They are helpful in preventing many deadly diseases. But the COVID vaxes used an experimental process, with the mRNA not working properly. It didn't keep me from getting sick. Maybe it helped others?
Vaccines are evil. They try to improve on God's creation. Who is wiser - God, or man? By their very intent, vaccines are evil. MRNA ones moreso, as they change the very genetic nature of God's creation. Ordinary vaccines only poison his creation.

COVID vaxes were not properly tested, they did not work in so many people. But other vaccines went through the process properly, tested properly, & did not use experimental techniques. I will continue to use the pneumococcus vaccine every 5 years, and so will my husband. But experimental COVID vaccines? Never again!
Good that you learned not to use experimental medicines. I thought most of us learned that lesson after the Nuremberg trials. Hopefully, you will learn that the ordinary poisons are also causing more harm than good.
 
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Polar

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You're missing my point. God gave the Israelites a means to be protected and healed, He gives us a means through medical treatments and vaccines to be protected and healed in our time.
Obviously I got your point. You do not seem able to disagree without creating personal jabs at people; calling them names and saying they are stupid etc.

You must not have much worth saying since you stoop that low. And this isn't even the BDF. Tootles
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Obviously I got your point. You do not seem able to disagree without creating personal jabs at people; calling them names and saying they are stupid etc.

You must not have much worth saying since you stoop that low. And this isn't even the BDF. Tootles
This is not a simple discussion, it is about dispelling misinformation that you and your colleagues are peddling as truth, and that may well cost people their lives. That's why I'm being aggressive, and calling you the fools that you actually are. And I have no problem calling you fools, because you are neither my brothers or sisters!
 

PennEd

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his is not a simple discussion, it is about dispelling misinformation
And WHO are these people that get to decide what is, and what is not "misinformation".

Because I believe EVERY word you, and others who support the poisonous injection, is misinformation.
 
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Ruby123

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My husband purchased a world map and then gave me a dart and said, “Throw this and wherever it lands—that’s where I’m taking you when this pandemic ends.” Turns out, we’re spending two weeks behind the fridge.
 

ZNP

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This is not a simple discussion, it is about dispelling misinformation that you and your colleagues are peddling as truth, and that may well cost people their lives. That's why I'm being aggressive, and calling you the fools that you actually are. And I have no problem calling you fools, because you are neither my brothers or sisters!

Do not pronounce judgement before the time

1Corinthians 4:5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

With what judgement you pronounce you will be judged


Matthew 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Why do you despise your brother?

Romans 14:10-12 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
 

shittim

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My husband purchased a world map and then gave me a dart and said, “Throw this and wherever it lands—that’s where I’m taking you when this pandemic ends.” Turns out, we’re spending two weeks behind the fridge.
Thank you Miss Ruby!
 
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Polar

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This is not a simple discussion, it is about dispelling misinformation that you and your colleagues are peddling as truth, and that may well cost people their lives. That's why I'm being aggressive, and calling you the fools that you actually are. And I have no problem calling you fools, because you are neither my brothers or sisters!
Well go ahead and discuss then. Stop the personal attacks. I am reporting you and I hope everyone else does also.

You have no business calling anyone here a fool. It's your ad hominin attacks that have created a bad atmosphere. You do not seem able to discuss without personal attacks.
 
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Polar

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Do not pronounce judgement before the time

1Corinthians 4:5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

With what judgement you pronounce you will be judged

Matthew 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Why do you despise your brother?

Romans 14:10-12 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
He does not consider us believers so why would he care about these verses? Just report him. He has no business addressing folks with his nasty name calling.
 

PennEd

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Well go ahead and discuss then. Stop the personal attacks. I am reporting you and I hope everyone else does also.

You have no business calling anyone here a fool. It's your ad hominin attacks that have created a bad atmosphere. You do not seem able to discuss without personal attacks.
The incredible irony here is this post from him:
I'm not into name calling, I'm just calling it as it is!
 

ZNP

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This is not a simple discussion, it is about dispelling misinformation that you and your colleagues are peddling as truth, and that may well cost people their lives. That's why I'm being aggressive, and calling you the fools that you actually are. And I have no problem calling you fools, because you are neither my brothers or sisters!
Who art thou?

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
 

ZNP

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He does not consider us believers so why would he care about these verses? Just report him. He has no business addressing folks with his nasty name calling.
That is what the apostle refers to about despising your brother.

He needs to be warned that not only is he violating the rules of this forum but he is in danger of very serious judgement from the Lord.
 

ZNP

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The incredible irony here is this post from him:
Self justification. See it all the time. He knows that what he is doing is sin but he is making excuses for why it is OK for him to do it.
 

ZNP

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#ChristiantonyB do the Christian thing and confess your sins and repent of them.
 
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You‘re acting the fool, and so is anyone else here that is supporting you in this matter. But enough of you.
There were some bacterial vaccines they tried which of course did not work on the Spanish influenza. My grandfather had no vaccine in war torn Ukraine. Neither did his friends. His friends died, he did not!

Most vaccines do work, and they help. For instance, small pox had a vaccine which was actually made from cow pox. Milk maids all have cow pox sooner or later, then they never got small pox. This vaccine made you very sick for a day or so. I remember being so sick from it. Of course, small pox has been defeated because of the vaccine. I take a pneumococcus vaccine which has dramatically lowered my incidence of pneumonias. Before my husband got the pneumococcus vaccine, he'd get so sick he would end up in the ICU almost dead. Since he had that vaccine, he has never gotten sick like he did before it. He hasn't been in the ICU since 2008.

Polio has been an important vaccine. Polio was a terrible disease that either maimed people or killed them. We got Hep A& B done, and we have no health problems when we travel to places that have Hep A& B.

You are confused. The COVID vaxes were experimental. They were not tried long enough, plus the excluded whole categories from their clinical trials. Like people with autoimmune disorders. I was not hurt at all by the 3 vaxes I took, not even a sore arm. Maybe I am used to taking needles? My objection, for me, is that it didn't protect me from getting COVID, or a milder case. Mine turned into
Pneumonia, And had I not gotten monoclonal antibodies I would have died.

Vaccines are not evil. They are helpful in preventing many deadly diseases. But the COVID vaxes used an experimental process, with the mRNA not working properly. It didn't keep me from getting sick. Maybe it helped others?

COVID vaxes were not properly tested, they did not work in so many people. But other vaccines went through the process properly, tested properly, & did not use experimental techniques. I will continue to use the pneumococcus vaccine every 5 years, and so will my husband. But experimental COVID vaccines? Never again!
Chiming in on my part here. I'm not against vaccines.

I am against the gene altering kab that's being promoted by it's makers and colluding politicians as a safeguard against COVID-19.

Joe Biden is in my view one of the most outstanding cautionary tales for the C10 anti-''vax'' campaign.

He's now suffering COVID-19 for a fourth time. He's vaccinated and has all his boosters. Yet he repeatedly comes down with COVID-19.

They proponents of the jab diminish the suffering families have gone through for having received the shot and even boosters.

A TV judge, when all this first happened lost a family member to COVID-19. An opportunist funeral director charged her over 20 thousand dollars for a coffin to be specially sealed against the virus.

Recently,though he later rescinded his order , a Chicago judge, James Shapiro, barred a divorced mother from visiting her son because she wasn't ''vaccinated''.
He then had the nerve to ask members of the courtroom gallery if they were vaccinated.

I think you're wise to exercise caution.

Years ago a huge number of people were dying after getting the flu shot. Long before COVID.

Turns out the vaccine they thought was a single glue strain contained my;tiple strains. That flu strain,swine flu and avian flu.

Those who died were in the at risk category for the simple flu. Which is why they thought they'd safeguard their health with a flu shot.

The reason for that push of an unconscionable cocktail into their bloodstream?

Money! Profit and loss balance sheets!

The Swine and Avian flu vaccines were near their expiration date. To avoid the $loss it was decided to add them to the current vaccine.

Always think before committing the rest of your life to something being injected into your bloodstream.

Because once it's in there there is no going back.



God protect us.🕊️😔