Israel Declares War

[Moses_Young]

Naomi (Israel) has her LAND LAND LAND redeemed. Ruth MARRIES Boaz (Christ).

I don't argue with this - it's true.

The willfull ignorance and Jew bashing/loathing around is despicable. Sick.

This is why I marked your answer incorrect - your conclusion doesn't follow from the post referenced (see below). Nothing mentioned about Jew-bashing or Jew-loathing there. If you can even find a definition of "Jew" that we both agree on. According to my definitions, I'm a true Jew. According to your definitions, you believe being a descendant of some Khazarian tribe from Europe now living in Palestine makes one Jewish.

These people create their own strawman. This is what is said, yet they define it as "replacement theology", and then come up with an example that supports that we are grafted into Christ to refute what they claimed was said (but wasn't). It's bizarre - almost a cult-like behaviour.

 

[Ted01]

People keep harping on about the Jews being God's chosen people as if that's the only truth in scripture... Peter says otherwise:

1 Pet. 2:4-10 (ESV)

4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
8 and
“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

The Church is now God's chosen people; Holy and precious, a holy nation, His own possession.

 

[Cameron143]

People keep harping on about the Jews being God's chosen people as if that's the only truth in scripture... Peter says otherwise:

1 Pet. 2:4-10 (ESV)

4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
8 and
“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

The Church is now God's chosen people; Holy and precious, a holy nation, His own possession.

Excellent point. Everything in verse 9 is there because this was true of the Jewish nation in the old covenant. So quite naturally, it is true of God's people in the new covenant. And yet it is true spiritually and to a greater degree.
The new testament is far superior to the old testament in that we all become priests and have access to God. But rather than sacrificing animals, we become the sacrifice...a living sacrifice pleasing to God.
Under the old covenant, it became increasingly difficult to get to God. God walked each day with Adam and Eve. But after the fall, He continued to speak to people; yet less and less. He began speaking through prophets and then was silent for 400 years. At the advent of Christ, He began again to talk to men face to face.
The temple, in this regard, reflected the distance between God and man. Eunuchs were not allowed in the temple. Gentiles were allowed in the outermost court. Further in, Jewish women were allowed. Still further in was a court for Jewish men. Further still was a court for the priests. And lastly, the holy of holies, where only one priest once a year could enter. From the fall until the death of Jesus, it became increasingly difficult to get to God. But that all changed at the Cross. All believers, regardless of estate, were welcomed to the throne of grace and by Jesus into the presence of the Most High.
Why anyone would want to remain under a failed covenant is beyond me. But that's the thing...it doesn't exist anymore anyways. The new has come. The old is gone. And yet, many still attempt to pour new wine into old wineskins. They always burst.

 

[cv5]

I don't argue with this - it's true.

Of course it is true. But more importantly it is PROPHETIC.

This utterly escapes you. It always has. And you, evidently being unteachable......it always will.

You just don't get it kid. That goes for a lot of people on this thread.
Not packing the gear. Too bad so sad.

 

[notmyown]

Get a clue buddy

at least we part friends, then.

 

[Magenta]

Why anyone would want to remain under a failed covenant is beyond me. But that's the thing...it doesn't exist anymore anyways.
The new has come. The old is gone. And yet, many still attempt to pour new wine into old wineskins. They always burst.

And sewing a new patch onto an older material... oopsie! The new patch does not conform to the old.

 

[Cameron143]

And sewing a new patch onto an older material... oopsie! The new patch does not conform to the old.

Bonus points for working in the word oopsie.

 

[cv5]

People keep harping on about the Jews being God's chosen people as if that's the only truth in scripture... Peter says otherwise:

1 Pet. 2:4-10 (ESV)

4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
8 and
“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

The Church is now God's chosen people; Holy and precious, a holy nation, His own possession.

The Old Covenant passing away has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Israel being God's chosen people.

As usual, the Jew bashers think Israel's prophetic, certain and inevitable future consisting of glorious service as priests to the gentile world in the millennium (all of this being written in advance) is null and void as the Old Covenant now is.

And as usual, the Jew bashers have it dead wrong.

 

[tobewholeagain]

Lucky me huh?

You posted a very long post but nothing within denies the fact that Moses murders a man.
-

 

[tobewholeagain]

6th commandment “you shall not murder”

 

[cv5]

You posted a very long post but nothing within denies the fact that Moses murders a man.
-

Great.
So the important question remains to be answered:
Are you a forgiven sinning murder the Way Moses was?
Oops. The Way Moses IS.

Moses life being present tense because he is alive forevermore.

 

[cv5]

6th commandment “you shall not murder”

Quick question:
You seem indignant if not outraged that "Moses the Jewish murder" (and there was a lot of "murdering" going on after that incident.......a whole lot) was redeemed-saved.

That being the case, what do you think about the Paul the Jewish Apostle who was also a murder? Are you bummed-out about his forgiveness and redemption too?

 

[Gideon300]

6th commandment “you shall not murder”

Sure. Murder is a crime where an individual is illegally killed. God commanded some people to be put to death. Does that make God a murderer? No. If a policeman shoots a criminal in self defence, is that murder? Again no. Is murder the unforgiveable sin? Ask King David about that. God did not kill David. Is Israel justified killing their enemies? For sure. The Syrians kill, the Pakistanis, Indians, Chinese, Turks, Kurds and much of North Africa is a killing field. Where is the outrage in those places? No, it's only Israel that has no right to defend itself against an enemy that is sworn to destroy it. That's because Israel testifies to God's power to fulfil His promises. Enmity to Israel is enmity to God.

 

[HeIsHere]

Enmity to Israel is enmity to God.

Therein lies the problem. smh

God is not ordering the death of 12 000 Palestinians.

Babies dying because the population has been denied, food, water and electricity.

Please do not place this brutal attack on God, for shame!

 

[HeIsHere]

What a tragic time for Christianity, to green light the murder of babies, children and women for a faulty theology.

Even George W. Bush, by far NOT a paragon of virtue and morals denounced Israel's attack on Gaza in 2002 which killed ONE Hamas operative and 15 civilians.

How the USA has devolved and some of its Christians with it.

Oh that's right the history and the facts not important.

 

[HeIsHere]

The NY Times' Patrick Kingsley dutifully promoted the Hamas "command-and-control center" hoax to justify Israel's denial of fuel to
al-Shifa.

It was a hoax, laughable evidence.

Journalists like Kingsley would do well to remember that journalists were tried at Nuremberg as well.

 

[HeIsHere]

 

[PennEd]

How crazy would it be if the Bible predicted that Jerusalem would become a cup of trembling? I mean this city has no natural resources, no longer has any strategic value, outside of religion.

What if the Bible predicted that the Jews would somehow stay a distinct people, even after 2000 years, and countless pogroms, expulsions , and massacres?

And how insane would it be if Scripture said that this people would be dispersed all over the world, only to be regathered in the same exact place God gave them, prior to the end times, that they inhabited 4000 years ago?

Now listen to this nutso part.
What if the Bible said the entire world would hate, and want to destroy this tiny nation and people, that consist of an infinitesimal 0.2 percent of the Global population!?

All of that and more would be CRAZY if the Bible predicted it, right?!!

But do you know what is the wackiest of all?

People that claim to believe the Bible, reading EVERYTHING the Bible said about this nation and people, and STILL not believing it, or allegorizing it away, and actually are on the WORLD’S side!!!!

 

[cv5]

Therein lies the problem. smh

God is not ordering the death of 12 000 Palestinians.

Babies dying because the population has been denied, food, water and electricity.

Please do not place this brutal attack on God, for shame!

All that we REALLY need to know is:

Whether you also earnestly desire the destruction of the nation and people of Israel.
Because Satan does.

Yes or no.

 

[cv5]

How crazy would it be if the Bible predicted that Jerusalem would become a cup of trembling? I mean this city has no natural resources, no longer has any strategic value, outside of religion.

What if the Bible predicted that the Jews would somehow stay a distinct people, even after 2000 years, and countless pogroms, expulsions , and massacres?

And how insane would it be if Scripture said that this people would be dispersed all over the world, only to be regathered in the same exact place God gave them, prior to the end times, that they inhabited 4000 years ago?

Now listen to this nutso part.
What if the Bible said the entire world would hate, and want to destroy this tiny nation and people, that consist of an infinitesimal 0.2 percent of the Global population!?

All of that and more would be CRAZY if the Bible predicted it right?!!

But do you know what is the wackiest of all?

People that claim to believe the Bible, reading EVERYTHING the Bible said about this nation and people, and STILL not believing it, or allegorizing it away, and actually are on the WORLD’S side!!!!

@HeIsHere @Moses_Young @Ted01 and others are doubtless plagued with:
-Biblical illiteracy
-despising/denying prophecy
-the heresy of replacement theology
-wrongly accusing God of kicking Israel to the curb

Brutal. Tragic. And oh so wrong.
Glad it ain't me.