Israel Declares War

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HeIsHere

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All that we REALLY need to know is:

Whether you also earnestly desire the destruction of the nation and people of Israel.
Because Satan does.

Yes or no.
You ask ridiculous questions.
 

ZNP

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How crazy would it be if the Bible predicted that Jerusalem would become a cup of trembling? I mean this city has no natural resources, no longer has any strategic value, outside of religion.

What if the Bible predicted that the Jews would somehow stay a distinct people, even after 2000 years, and countless pogroms, expulsions , and massacres?

And how insane would it be if Scripture said that this people would be dispersed all over the world, only to be regathered in the same exact place God gave them, prior to the end times, that they inhabited 4000 years ago?

Now listen to this nutso part.
What if the Bible said the entire world would hate, and want to destroy this tiny nation and people, that consist of an infinitesimal 0.2 percent of the Global population!?

All of that and more would be CRAZY if the Bible predicted it, right?!!

But do you know what is the wackiest of all?

People that claim to believe the Bible, reading EVERYTHING the Bible said about this nation and people, and STILL not believing it, or allegorizing it away, and actually are on the WORLD’S side!!!!
I'm sorry but even fiction or fantasy has to at least appear plausible. I understand why NY, London and Hong Kong became great cities, but for Jerusalem to become that important would indicate that money is vanity, that all other gods are false and only Jehovah is the true God. To bring this country back after 2,000 years would be proof positive that He is the God of resurrection. To have told everyone this in the Bible would prove that He tells the end from the beginning, something only the true God can do. For the whole world to want to destroy this tiny nation would be proof the whole world lies in the evil one. And the fact that people claiming to be Christians say the things you say they are saying would confirm Paul's word that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

But here is what doesn't make sense to me, people say you need faith and cannot prove that God exists from science, and yet you are putting forth scientific evidence proving that God is real and the Bible is true?
 

HeIsHere

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Or more correctly stated:

I ask the crucial and pertinent questions that you refuse to answer. Tantamount to pleading the 5th.
My hope is for no war, no bloodshed, no crimes against humanity and Israel leading in peace not destruction.
 

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My hope is for no war, no bloodshed, no crimes against humanity and Israel leading in peace not destruction.
Ah yes, a world in which there is nothing worth fighting for. I think the Matrix already shared that this dream is a nightmare.
 

HeIsHere

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Great.

And the Bible say what exactly about that pipe dream?
20 Now may the God of peace, who brought up from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant, 21 equip you with every good thing to do his will, carrying out in us what is pleasing before him through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever[i].[j] Amen.
Hebrews13:20
 

HeIsHere

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Ah yes, a world in which there is nothing worth fighting for. I think the Matrix already shared that this dream is a nightmare.
Yup Christians are messing up big time, called to be salt and light has been traded in for being war mongers.
 

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Babies dying because the population has been denied, food, water and electricity.

Please do not place this brutal attack on God, for shame!
Yes, put the blame on Hamas where it belongs!

Yup Christians are messing up big time, called to be salt and light has been traded in for being war mongers.
LOL. So now Christians are to blame? Ridiculous!
 

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All that we REALLY need to know is:

Whether you also earnestly desire the destruction of the nation and people of Israel.
Because Satan does.

Yes or no.
I think that is your eschatology, not mine.
 

cv5

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20 Now may the God of peace, who brought up from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant, 21 equip you with every good thing to do his will, carrying out in us what is pleasing before him through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever[i].[j] Amen.
Hebrews13:20
What war? Who war? When war? How and when do the wars end?
You do not know huh?
Here is a clue: not anytime before the SC.

Dan 9:26
..........and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan 7:21
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 

cv5

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I think that is your eschatology, not mine.
Any eschatology that ignores, denies or defies prophecy is no eschatology at all.

What it always ends up as is.......heresy.
 

HeIsHere

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What war? Who war? When war? How and when do the wars end?
You do not know huh?
Here is a clue: not anytime before the SC.

Dan 9:26
..........and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan 7:21
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

And Jesus clearly stated when YOU see these things....

And no, UNTIL changes nothing.

I use until frequently, as in, "I will wait until she arrives"

Still audience relevance is a paramount principle of interpretation.
 

HeIsHere

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Any eschatology that ignores, denies or defies prophecy is no eschatology at all.

What it always ends up as is.......heresy.
The prophecy of the OT fulfilled in the coming of Christ Jesus over 2000 years ago, case closed on that.
 

cv5

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And Jesus clearly stated when YOU see these things....

And no, UNTIL changes nothing.

I use until frequently, as in, "I will wait until she arrives"

Still audience relevance is a paramount principle of interpretation.
Yet the obvious fact remains:
War is more horrific now in scale and magnitude than ever. Including MAD total annihilation at the push of a button.

And you still think that world peace is gonna happen cuz the "Christians" like you are able to get the job done?

Preposterous. But more importantly......UNBIBLICAL!
 

cv5

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The prophecy of the OT fulfilled in the coming of Christ Jesus over 2000 years ago, case closed on that.
OOhhhh. So you think that the Prince of Peace is ruling from His throne right now do you?

Because if you do, "your Jesus" is NOT doing a bang-up job.

My Jesus WILL get the job done. After He PERSONALLY destroys the "Dragon-Beast Satan-man" and his armies and redeems Israel to service. In the very near future.
 

HeIsHere

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Yet the obvious fact remains:
War is more horrific now in scale and magnitude than ever. Including MAD total annihilation at the push of a button.

And you still think that world peace is gonna happen cuz the "Christians" like you are able to get the job done?

Preposterous. But more importantly......UNBIBLICAL!
Well I could say it is Christians like you who stand in the way, lol.
Dispensationalism is on life support.

People are waking up, thank you Jesus!
 

cv5

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And Jesus clearly stated when YOU see these things....

And no, UNTIL changes nothing.

I use until frequently, as in, "I will wait until she arrives"

Still audience relevance is a paramount principle of interpretation.
Interpret this.....

Rev 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Mat 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall NOT prevail against it.
 

cv5

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Well I could say it is Christians like you who stand in the way, lol.
Dispensationalism is on life support.

People are waking up, thank you Jesus!
The only thing that I am "in the way" of is.....

Baseless unbiblical heresies. Which you possess in great revenue.
 

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