Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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Jobs that are created by government spending generally give you a 0.9 return on your investment. So the more you spend money to create jobs the deeper the fiscal hole gets.
 

mailmandan

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Oooohhh kay we get it.

What you are trying to say is that @mailmandan is a dog and a pig.

Sounds like TDS "murder in thine heart" talk to me. And certainly not the first or only instance of this disturbing trait and state of mind that you are possessed with.
He fails to see the irony in his post here in regard to judging. I'm very familiar with that Scripture, but he's sure I'm not familiar with it. He is referring to me as a dog/pig which is the opposite of a sheep. He is judging me as lost, yet he has the audacity to lecture me on not judging. o_O
 

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Here is some Scripture that is applicable to why I won't share that information with you. I'm sure you're not familiar with. it..

Matthew 7:1-6, "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ while there is a beam in your own? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces."
Yes these verses are very applicable.

It provides a very simple charge to not judge anyone or else you will be judged with the same judgement. Just like the saying that when you point your finger at someone else, you have three fingers pointing back at you.

So then how can you know who the dogs and pigs are since that implies judgement? That is the beauty of these verses, they don't prohibit judging, they just prohibit judging others. For example "do not judge yourself for by the standard you judge yourself you will be judged". It just doesn't have the same kick.

So then how do you explain "do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs". First we must judge our dog nature and our pig nature because the Lord is not going to give that which is holy or precious to us when we are in our selfish unclean flesh.

Which goes back to the verse about removing the beam in our own eye so we can see clearly to help others. For example, once we do remove the beam from our own eye our perspective changes, no longer are we judging and condemning others as pigs and dogs, rather we are seeing them clearly as those in the image and likeness of God that need help seeing clearly.

If you view people as pigs and dogs then instead of helping them you will be throwing your pearls before them and they will trample you as being a hypocrite. This goes back to the first verse, you are judging them as dogs and pigs and with what judgment you judge you shall be judged, so you in term are being trampled by them because they also will see you as a dog and pig.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Here is some Scripture that is applicable to why I won't share that information with you. I'm sure you're not familiar with. it..
So you judge, then use a Scripture against judging. Is someone writing your posts for you or are you not reading what you're writing?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Yeah, that's the way cults work. People don't evaluate who the cult leader actually is as a person. They get mesmerized by extreme rhetoric which generally paints everyone else but the cult leader as evil. It seems that he has seduced you also, correct?

Give it a break already. There are people who are actually involved in cults. Stop with the leftie rhetoric. People are sick and tired of being sick and tired. We have two choices and anyone that looks around and sees the mess this country is in isn't going to sit on their wide behinds and let Biden win 4 more yrs to totally destroy the country. Some people have kids to feed, a home to pay for, elderly parents to care for. We can't sit on our hands and let Brandon have a second go round. There won't be a country left if we do. You do you. I'm not in any cult, I'm eyes wide open to what we face if we put radical Dems in office again. I won't do it. And I'm making sure my family and friends don't make the same mistake.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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In my mind he is comparable to Hitler.

Annnnnd there you go folks. The pearl clutching. You can't reason with a person like this. A waste of effort. Not enough common sense to grease a skillet. smh
 

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You fail to see your own hypocrisy from the words in scripture that you bolded.

Instead of weaponizing and misaaplying scripture, you should instead revere Christ in your heart as Lord and always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. (1 Peter 3:15)
So says the person that wrote this...
Just as I suspected. Christians I know would not hesitate to share their testimony on how they became a Christian. BTW: I don't listen to CNN - Communist News Network.

Hypocrisy!
 

jamessb

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You fail to see your own hypocrisy from the words in scripture that you bolded.

Instead of weaponizing and misaaplying scripture, you should instead revere Christ in your heart as Lord and always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. (1 Peter 3:15)
"Hypocrisy"? LOL. That is "the pot calling the kettle black". Instead of seeing your own faults you accuse others of doing exactly what you do.

You fail to see your own hypocrisy.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You fail to see your own hypocrisy from the words in scripture that you bolded.

We here know you better brother. Wouldn't waste half a breath on people who carry on with such nonsense. Not worth your time. If they don't understand the importance of what is being said they will if they help Biden get in again. And they better not come back here because they'll get both barrels if they do.
 

mailmandan

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So says the person that wrote this...
Just as I suspected. Christians I know would not hesitate to share their testimony on how they became a Christian. BTW: I don't listen to CNN - Communist News Network.

Hypocrisy!
I did not call you a dog or pig. Only God can infallibly judge the hearts of men. I just suspected something isn't right here based on your refusal to share your testimony. I'm always very happy to share my Christian testimony. ✝️
 

mailmandan

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"He simply gave voice to what so many were feeling, and was willing to be the point of the spear." Cult leaders mesmerize people, playing on their feelings. They willingly suspend rational thought because the cult leader taps into their emotions. That is exactly what Trump is doing!!!

Once Trump is dead the "movement" will be over.
Sounds like a severe case of TDS. :( Did you vote for Biden during the 2020 election?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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"He simply gave voice to what so many were feeling, and was willing to be the point of the spear." Cult leaders mesmerize people, playing on their feelings. They willingly suspend rational thought because the cult leader taps into their emotions. That is exactly what Trump is doing!!!
Talking points, talking points, talking points. Then he calls tells us we're a part of a cult! rofl



Once Trump is dead the "movement" will be over.
Tell me you're a liberal without telling me you're a liberal :ROFL::ROFL:
 

HeIsHere

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"He simply gave voice to what so many were feeling, and was willing to be the point of the spear." Cult leaders mesmerize people, playing on their feelings. They willingly suspend rational thought because the cult leader taps into their emotions. That is exactly what Trump is doing!!!

Once Trump is dead the "movement" will be over.
I am quite sure that the movement will be over when he is gone and he will be the reason because he has made himself the center point of the movement rather than empowering the people within the movement, sharing the stage etc.,

As well if it is a "cult" it is self-imposed rather than him being the controlling force as we would typically see in a cult.

It is never good when voters loose objectivity and fall into the cult of personality.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I am quite sure that the movement will be over when he is gone and he will be the reason because he has made himself the center point of the movement rather than empowering the people within the movement, sharing the stage etc.,

As well if it is a "cult" it is self-imposed rather than him being the controlling force as we would typically see in a cult.

It is never good when voters loose objectivity and fall into the cult of personality.
Here's why its not a cult. I can't speak for others but myself. So here goes.

I would have voted for a wall with or without Trump.

I was for small gov't before Trump and will be after.

I was saying drill baby drill before Sarah Palin coined it.

I am against abortion and support the person that's policies are closest to that.

I wasn't for trans bathrooms or men in womens sports before Trump.

I wasn't a socialist before Trump, I believe in conservative gov't.

I would have voted for any candidate that had this platform.

I was against the Green New Deal and knew gas and heating prices were going up as soon as a Dem got in. Just a few of the things I can think of.

All I believed before Trump I will believe after him. It's not him, it's the policies. Well maybe some of him because he doesn't back down on this things. A cult follows the man. If Trump changed these things I would be looking for someone else who supported my views.
 

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Annnnnd there you go folks. The pearl clutching. You can't reason with a person like this. A waste of effort. Not enough common sense to grease a skillet. smh
"if brains was lard, he wouldn't grease too big a pan."
-Jed Clampett
 

jamessb

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I did not call you a dog or pig. Only God can infallibly judge the hearts of men. I just suspected something isn't right here based on your refusal to share your testimony. I'm always very happy to share my Christian testimony. ✝️
Okay, share it! I will not bother to share my testimony with you, as I will only share it with people who are interested in learning something from it. Obviously that is not you, so why should I bother?

Again, as Matthew wrote, "Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces". I follow God's inspired words of wisdom!