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I have attained lofty heights, as should any Bible-believing Christian.
For example, we read:
Ephesians chapter 1
[15] Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
[16] Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
[17] That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
[18] The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
[19] And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to usward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
[20] Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
[21] Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
[22] And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
[23] Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Ephesians chapter 2
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
[3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
[4] But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
[6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
[7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Even though this world has a course to it which is in accordance to the prince of the power the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience, BOTH Christ AND CHRISTIANS have been raised up FAR ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITY, AND POWER, AND MIGHT, AND DOMINION, or above the spiritual forces we are actually engaged in battle against.
If you want to remain ignorant of this reality to your own hurt, then have at it.
Your immature responses are only helping to further enslave you.
For example, we read:
Ephesians chapter 1
[15] Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
[16] Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
[17] That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
[18] The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
[19] And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to usward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
[20] Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
[21] Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
[22] And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
[23] Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Ephesians chapter 2
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
[3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
[4] But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
[6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
[7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Even though this world has a course to it which is in accordance to the prince of the power the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience, BOTH Christ AND CHRISTIANS have been raised up FAR ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITY, AND POWER, AND MIGHT, AND DOMINION, or above the spiritual forces we are actually engaged in battle against.
If you want to remain ignorant of this reality to your own hurt, then have at it.
Your immature responses are only helping to further enslave you.
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I, for one (and I suspect that @kaylagrl would be two), appreciate your honesty.
I struggled with it greatly myself in the past, and, in my particular case, there was more than one variable involved.
Initially, I opened myself up to demonic influence which certainly remained part of my problem until I obtained the victory, but there were other variables involved along the way, like rejection, for example.
I can't speak for all men, but, in my particular case, it was pretty much a way for me to engage in fantasy relationships with others because real life relationships weren't the best at that time. I'd honestly have to say that my full deliverance didn't come until I dealt with the issue of rejection in my life.
I struggled with it greatly myself in the past, and, in my particular case, there was more than one variable involved.
Initially, I opened myself up to demonic influence which certainly remained part of my problem until I obtained the victory, but there were other variables involved along the way, like rejection, for example.
I can't speak for all men, but, in my particular case, it was pretty much a way for me to engage in fantasy relationships with others because real life relationships weren't the best at that time. I'd honestly have to say that my full deliverance didn't come until I dealt with the issue of rejection in my life.
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There is no lust in marriage you are innerjecting that One does not have to desire or lust after what HE has. You are just wanting to make the term lust acceptable because it is one's wife.
Lust is not a component of marriage it is one of the flesh and is the relative of lack of self-control. And you must also understand
That Lust to set upon the heart is the issue that leads to fornication, and adultery. That is why Jesus is telling one DEAL with your perverted heart because it will deal with you.
YOu are trying to make the context of LUST a good thing as long as it is your wife. The Bible doesn't use lust in context to marriage, you can, but the Bible doesn't.
Lust is not a component of marriage it is one of the flesh and is the relative of lack of self-control. And you must also understand
That Lust to set upon the heart is the issue that leads to fornication, and adultery. That is why Jesus is telling one DEAL with your perverted heart because it will deal with you.
YOu are trying to make the context of LUST a good thing as long as it is your wife. The Bible doesn't use lust in context to marriage, you can, but the Bible doesn't.
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Let's add some stats to this...
1) Eleven is the average age that a child is first exposed to porn, and 94% of children will see porn by the age of 14
2)56% of American divorces involve one party having an “obsessive interest” in pornographic websites
3) 70% of Christian youth pastors report that they have had at least one teen come to them for help in dealing with pornography in the past 12 months.
4) 68% of church-going men and over 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn.
5) 59% of pastors said that married men seek their help for porn use.
6) 33% of women aged 25-and-under search for porn at least once per month.
7) Only 13% of self identified Christian women say they never watch porn – 87% of Christian women have watched porn.
8) 55% of married men and 25% of married women say they watch porn at least once a month.
9)Only 7% of pastors say their church has a program to help people struggling with pornography.
This research comes from Barna Group and Covenant Eyes. Now, tell me again how this is just a man thing who are just perverts. Someone is not telling the truth here. This is an issue IN the CHURCH. This is affecting everyone, both sexes of all ages. The church is ignoring it, utterly. So let's start back at square one. This is a real struggle Christians are having. We need to get real, real fast.
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Demonic influences are real, BUT if we can get to the place (and we can, by God's grace) where we understand exactly what was purchased for us via Christ's death, burial, resurrection, and ascension back to heaven FAR ABOVE the demonic forces with whom we are actually engaged in battle, then we can truly obtain the victory.
If I can be of any assistance to you in this regard, then please don't hesitate to ask.
If I can be of any assistance to you in this regard, then please don't hesitate to ask.
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I have a bunch of things to take care of, so this might be my last contribution for the day.
I recently ended a relationship with a woman whose sexual problems began when she was raped by her mother's boyfriend at age 4 (not a typo). Her "normal" childhood experiences were watching her mother engage in group sex orgies IN HER OWN HOME, and she began watching porn which was easily accessible IN HER OWN HOME from the time that she was but a young child. Eventually, she fell into a life of prostitution which lasted many years until the time came that she became a Christian.
When she and I first met, imagine if I had just rebuked her for her porn addiction without trying to help her to deal with/heal from these horrific things from her past which led to her addiction.
We really need to be able to compassionately listen to people, and not be so quick to self-righteously judge.
I recently ended a relationship with a woman whose sexual problems began when she was raped by her mother's boyfriend at age 4 (not a typo). Her "normal" childhood experiences were watching her mother engage in group sex orgies IN HER OWN HOME, and she began watching porn which was easily accessible IN HER OWN HOME from the time that she was but a young child. Eventually, she fell into a life of prostitution which lasted many years until the time came that she became a Christian.
When she and I first met, imagine if I had just rebuked her for her porn addiction without trying to help her to deal with/heal from these horrific things from her past which led to her addiction.
We really need to be able to compassionately listen to people, and not be so quick to self-righteously judge.
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Since there is a group here large enough to get different points of view, I ask this question that may add understanding. Classic conditioning shapes our conscience. God programmed us but society reprograms us. Now what if instead of society despiritualizing sex, the church instead spiritualized it? What if sexually we were programmed more like the beasts with hormones to dictate our reproductive actions? Perhaps like the guilt conditioned in some people when they eat chocolate or junk food, the guilt experienced from “unholy sexual lust” isn’t from on high? The Bible is clear about marriage. In many many ways it resembles more of a legal arrangement. The laws are to protect lineage and fortify the family. Although it would be nice to enjoy some spiritual bond of love with your spouse, things don’t always go as planned. We are to “agape” each other. This definition is closer to bearing the burdens of another, and being a blessing. A marriage turns two into one functionally but emotional bonding is compatibility based. Anyways, what are your thoughts?
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Yes, I have mentioned before that the church is a hospital. It's where we come to bring our broken hearts, lives and minds to the doctor. There is a Christian country song ( I know, not everyones cup of tea) but it's called Doctor Jesus, and it talks about the need to be healed by Doctor Jesus. We all deal with sin, with temptation, and we struggle against the flesh. For some that is of a sexual nature, or drug and alcohol,food addiction or gossip, yeah it's a sin too people. And we should be able to share and not feel guilty for struggling. Thank you for sharing your testimony. Blessings.
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For some time now, I've been contemplating starting a thread which would hopefully give us all better insight as to who we truly are in Christ and the liberty from sin contained therein.
To my own shame, I've allowed certain naysayers on this website (and there's no shortage of them, unfortunately) to deter me from doing so because I know that they'll jump in and attempt to derail the thread, even as they've derailed so many other threads on this website before.
I'm extremely busy for the next couple of days, but I will actively seek to start such a thread as soon as I can find the time to do so (shouldn't be more than two or three days). When I do, I'll be sure to notify you of the same.
In the meantime, you'll be in my prayers.
As one who has gone through your present struggles in the past myself, I have compassion on you. More importantly, you have a merciful and faithful high priest, Jesus Christ, who forever lives to make intercession for you. By God's grace, I'm confident that you'll obtain the victory.
Sorry, but I have a bunch of things (all God-related, too) that I really need to see to right now.
Ttyl.
To my own shame, I've allowed certain naysayers on this website (and there's no shortage of them, unfortunately) to deter me from doing so because I know that they'll jump in and attempt to derail the thread, even as they've derailed so many other threads on this website before.
I'm extremely busy for the next couple of days, but I will actively seek to start such a thread as soon as I can find the time to do so (shouldn't be more than two or three days). When I do, I'll be sure to notify you of the same.
In the meantime, you'll be in my prayers.
As one who has gone through your present struggles in the past myself, I have compassion on you. More importantly, you have a merciful and faithful high priest, Jesus Christ, who forever lives to make intercession for you. By God's grace, I'm confident that you'll obtain the victory.
Sorry, but I have a bunch of things (all God-related, too) that I really need to see to right now.
Ttyl.
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