Why do some people believe and some do not?

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Actually, it very much does. Your commitment to your present perspective is perhaps blinding you from seeing mine.
Paul gave examples of God hardening hearts and choosing by divine election one tqijnover the other before either had been born, specific before they had done anything right or wrong, and said Israel had likewise been partially hardened in order that Gentiles could be brought in.
Then he immediately said, someone will object, how then can God still judge since no one can resist His will?

that is categorically the opposite of the view you presented, that Paul is actually arguing God never hardens anyone's heart, that He never chooses anyone before they do right or wrong, in fa tu Never chooses anyone because God is necessarily ignorant of the future, and that what he is actually arguing against is people resisting God's will.



the text of Romans 9 absolutely does not in any way whatsoever support your ((and i must use this word incredibly loosely to describe what you have written)) "interpretation" of it.
 
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A different perspective on that passage is that Paul is dealing with the claim that no one can resist God's will
the only sense in which this is true is that Paul in Romans 9 is dealing with your resistance to God's will to harden whom He pleases and have mercy on whom He pleases.
 

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PaulThomson said:
Actually, that is not the obvious objection Paul anticipated to the gospel. A different perspective on that passage is that Paul is dealing with the claim that no one can resist God's will, and rebuking that claim, since He has just given examples of people who did resist God's will: the Edomites and Pharaoh.

The text does not support your interpretation.
Oh, it most certainly does.