Why did the Most High God create sin?
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FreeGrace2 said:
I asked where the Bible says this. But you didn't provide any verses.
If you don't have any, just say so. If you do have some, then please share.
If you think God created evil, then God is evil. Is that your position?
Exactly. Gen 1:1. But this doesn't answer my question.
I have. And this doesn't answer my question.
Ok, so basically, you don't seem to have an answer as to your belief that God created evil.
So, since you have no verses to share, why do you believe that?
My beliefs and views come straight from the Bible. Why don't yours?
I asked where the Bible says this. But you didn't provide any verses.
If you don't have any, just say so. If you do have some, then please share.
If you think God created evil, then God is evil. Is that your position?
Exactly. Gen 1:1. But this doesn't answer my question.
I have. And this doesn't answer my question.
Ok, so basically, you don't seem to have an answer as to your belief that God created evil.
So, since you have no verses to share, why do you believe that?
My beliefs and views come straight from the Bible. Why don't yours?
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I believe you did, pages ago.
"For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him." - Colossian 1:16
Why do you think this verse supports your view about evil?
If God created evil, then HE Himself is evil. He cannot be perfect and holy IF IF IF He created evil.
He created freedom for His creatures to DO evil.
Are you able to grasp this difference?
Here's an example to illustrate the issue.
Colt makes firearms, and sells them. IF a buyer gets one and uses it to kill someone, who committed the murder?
Colt the maker of the gun or the buyer of the gun?
"For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him." - Colossian 1:16
Why do you think this verse supports your view about evil?
If God created evil, then HE Himself is evil. He cannot be perfect and holy IF IF IF He created evil.
He created freedom for His creatures to DO evil.
Are you able to grasp this difference?
Here's an example to illustrate the issue.
Colt makes firearms, and sells them. IF a buyer gets one and uses it to kill someone, who committed the murder?
Colt the maker of the gun or the buyer of the gun?
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<sigh>
You just don't understand. The clear point is that we have freedom within OUR LIMITS.
But since you don't like free will, you have to "draw outside the lines" to include options that are not available, in order to make it look like free will is a silly concept.
When it is your irrelevant examples that look silly.
Of course I can't make it rain by my "free will". But I CAN choose to take an umbrella with me if it is or will be raining.
I hope you can see the difference.
In any case, it's impossible to discuss with someone whose mind is made up and isn't interesting in facts.
You just don't understand. The clear point is that we have freedom within OUR LIMITS.
But since you don't like free will, you have to "draw outside the lines" to include options that are not available, in order to make it look like free will is a silly concept.
When it is your irrelevant examples that look silly.
Of course I can't make it rain by my "free will". But I CAN choose to take an umbrella with me if it is or will be raining.
I hope you can see the difference.
In any case, it's impossible to discuss with someone whose mind is made up and isn't interesting in facts.
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Yes, it is free will. You have a choice to do right or sin. God did not create sin. Why would God create anything that would keep you from Him? Why would He create sin and then punish you when you sin? What kind of theological hoops and loops do you have to jump through to come to that conclusion? Adam and Eve had a choice in the garden, or do you think God tricked them? No, God is not some Greek god that lures people into traps and then say "Ah ha! You sinned, now you're in for it!" That's utterly ridiculous.
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