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VCO

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I didn't put you on ignore........I called VCR a fascist for telling other to put you on ignore......
you may now apologize to me.
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Name Calling is ILLEGAL according to the RULES. It is obvious you really do not know what a FACIST IS. I only recommended that they should put him on IGNORE too. He has habitually tried to derail this thread into a Biblical Prophecy, THREAD that he wanted to talk about. I told him a couple times or more that if he wanted to continue this line of discussion, he should START HIS OWN THREAD. As THIS THREAD it is a NEWS from ISRAEL Thread as have done FREQUENTLY, and most recently I explained in my Post #2,252 .

You can consider this your First Warning, and according to the BIBLE I only give you two warning and the third time I put you on the IGNORE LIST, period.

Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

Just so you know My name in not VCR it is VCO.
 

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1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Mat 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

God has not changed but the new covenant does not include an Earthly sanctuary. It's all about the Heavenly Sanctuary.
The Earthly temple was just a pattern of the Heavenly so we could understand it better.
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Please READ my Post #2,252 , as it applies to you too.
 

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Name Calling is ILLEGAL according to the RULES. It is obvious you really do not know what a FACIST IS. I only recommended that they should put him on IGNORE too. He has habitually tried to derail this thread into a Biblical Prophecy, THREAD that he wanted to talk about. I told him a couple times or more that if he wanted to continue this line of discussion, he should START HIS OWN THREAD. As THIS THREAD it is a NEWS from ISRAEL Thread as have done FREQUENTLY, and most recently I explained in my Post #2,252 .

You can consider this your First Warning, and according to the BIBLE I only give you two warning and the third time I put you on the IGNORE LIST, period.

Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

Just so you know My name in not VCR it is VCO.
Just so YOU know, a fascist is one who limits free speech by controlling information and only allowing their opinion. Which is what you were doing to Keras......who I don't like either, but I don't put K on ignore, I just mostly ignore him anyway.
Go ahead and put me on ignore, I don't intend to discuss this ridiculous subject of yours anyway.
 

VCO

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Just so YOU know, a fascist is one who limits free speech by controlling information and only allowing their opinion. Which is what you were doing to Keras......who I don't like either, but I don't put K on ignore, I just mostly ignore him anyway.
Go ahead and put me on ignore, I don't intend to discuss this ridiculous subject of yours anyway.
That is TWO WARNINGS, next time you are going in the IGNORE LIST.
 

VCO

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The Third Holy Temple Plans have BEGUN!

 

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YES, I BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE TO GO BY RULES. I am 71 years old, and most likely old enough to be your Grandfather or Great-Grandfather. Would you speak to your Grandfather like you do to me ? ? ? You are now on my IGNORE LIST, and you have earned it. I also recommend everyone considers to place him on their IGNORE LIST, too.
 

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YES, I BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE TO GO BY RULES. I am 71 years old, and most likely old enough to be your Grandfather or Great-Grandfather. Would you speak to your Grandfather like you do to me ? ? ? You are now on my IGNORE LIST, and you have earned it. I also recommend everyone considers to place him on their IGNORE LIST, too.
since I am on ignore.....:eek:
tell the old crab I am 10 yrs older than he is and I don't act like a big baby
 
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since I am on ignore.....:eek:
tell the old crab I am 10 yrs older than he is and I don't act like a big baby
No you act like a.. (I will not break the rules)

then again I have come to expect that from many like you

it’s his op, he has the right to do whatever he wishes, if you don’t like it, go start a thread of your own.
 

VCO

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No you act like a.. (I will not break the rules)

then again I have come to expect that from many like you

it’s his op, he has the right to do whatever he wishes, if you don’t like it, go start a thread of your own.

Amen. I have been on several Discussion Group sites over the YEARS, and when the Original Poster wants to keep people on a CERTAIN Particular Subject, it is RESPECTED and COMMON COURTACY not to deviate from that Subject. The only exception to that rule, was the TOPIX Christian Forum. And it was a site, where ANYTHING GOES, even atheist Joined to ridicule BELIEVERS, NO SUPERVISION, NO BANNING for violating the rules, ETC. I got called all kinds of filthy Names, by so-called CHRISTIANS and Atheist, in the short while I remained there. There were three other Bible Discussion Groups, that has similar rules with a moderator or two, to Police the sites for Rule Violators.

That is why I was upset when he called me a FACIST, a name I would NEVER call anybody that is CHRISTIAN. IT REMINDED ME OF THE NAMES I WAS CALLED ON TOPIX.

To me a FACIST is one that typifies the Famous FACIST DICTATORS in History:

Adolf Hitler; Benito Mussolini in WWII, were leaders of the Axis Powers; 2017 · Ion Antonescu- Leader of Romania; Francisco Franco- Prime Minister of Spain; Miklos Horothy- as most famous for his Anti-Bolshevik opinions in Hungary; António de Oliveira Salazar- Leader of Portugal during the second world war; Sir Oswald Mosley- Leader of the British Union of Fascists, was arrested in 1940; Filippo Tommaso Marinetti- Wrote the Fascist manifesto in Italy; ETC., ETC.

I could not have called anyone of those men to be genuine Christians, and some of them were horrific mass murderers.
 

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BACK TO THE NEWS and this post was just put up TODAY (02 Nov, 2020)! The single most ERRONIOUS FALSE IDEA, is the TEMPLE MOUNT, is the singular peak of Mount Moriah. People do not REALIZE that MOUNT MORIAH is the the NAME OF THE ENTIRE RIDGE from North of the Dome of the Rock, all the way down SOUTH to where it runs into the Kidron Valley. I can show you Verses that say the TEMPLE was on Mount Moriah; AND I can show you where the temple was on Mount ZION. The only way for BOTH TO BE TRUE is for Mount Moriah is the name of the RIDGE, and Mount ZION is the SPECIFIC LOCATION OF TEMPLE on the Center Peak of Mount Moriah, which is Mount ZION.

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02 Nov, 2020
ט״ו בְּחֶשְׁוָן תשפ״א







THIRD TEMPLE
And new moon after new moon, And Shabbat after Shabbat, All flesh shall come to worship Me —said Hashem. Isaiah 66:23

The First Holy Temple was built on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, also known as the Temple Mount, by King Solomon, based on plans and preparations made by his father, King David.

In the four hundred and eightieth year after the Israelites left the land of Egypt, in the month of Ziv—that is, the second month—in the fourth year of his reign over Yisrael, Shlomo began to build the House of Hashem. Kings 6:1

The First Temple stood for over 400 years and was destroyed in 586 BCE (approximately 2600 years ago) by Nebuchadnezzar II, King of Babylon.

When some of the Jews who were exiled to Babylon after the destruction of the First Temple returned to Jerusalem, they built the Second Holy Temple with permission from Kings Cyrus and Darius. The Second Temple stood on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem for 585 years, until it too was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE.

In the first year of King Cyrus, King Cyrus issued an order concerning the House of Hashem in Yerushalayim: ‘Let the house be rebuilt, a place for offering sacrifices, with a base built up high. Let it be sixty amot high and sixty amot wide, Ezra 6:3

The Bible speaks of a third and final Temple which will be built at the End of Days, never to be destroyed.

THIRD TEMPLE TODAY
The Temple Mount, the future home of the Third Temple, is a hotly contested area. Currently under the care of the Islamic Waqf, the Temple Mount’s Muslim caretakers regularly supress archeological evidence about the previous Jewish presence on the Temple Mount.
Additionally, clashes between Jewish and Muslim visitors are routine and the rights of Jewish worshippers are frequently compromised.

On the positive side, the presence of a kosher red heifer is closely connected to the Third Temple and the restoration of sacrifices in the Temple. This is why Israel365 News reports on every story of a red heifer born in our day that is potentially eligible to be used as a sacrifice.

his is the ritual law that Hashem has commanded: Instruct B’nei Yisrael to bring you a red cow without blemish, in which there is no defect and on which no yoke has been laid. Numbers 19:2

US President Donald Trump is considered by some to have a role in the rebuilding of the Third Temple.

The nascent Sanhedrin occasionally reenacts Temple services in preparation for the reestablishment of sacrifices in the Third Temple. In Israel’s last election, the rebuilding of the Temple was even a campaign issue. And the Temple Institute continues its preparations for the Third Temple by, among other things, training Jewish men eligible to serve as priests in the future Third Temple.

THIRD TEMPLE IN PROPHECY
Twenty-five years after the destruction of the First Temple, during the Babylonian exile, the prophet Ezekiel was shown a vision of the Third Temple.

In the twenty-fifth year of our exile, the fourteenth year after the city had fallen, at the beginning of the year, the tenth day of the month—on that very day—the hand of Hashem came upon me, and He brought me there. He brought me, in visions of Hashem, to the Land of Yisrael, and He set me down on a very high mountain on which there seemed to be the outline of a city on the south.
Ezekiel 40:1-2

The details of the prophecy related to the building of the Third Temple are found in Ezekiel 40-48. Although many of the details in Ezekiel’s prophecy are currently vague, we do know certain things about the structure of the Third Temple from his prophetic vision.

Jewish tradition teaches that the Third Temple will be significantly bigger than the first two Temples, in part to allow for the presence of the Nations to witness the Temple services.

And the many peoples shall go and say: “Come, Let us go up to the Mount of Hashem, To the House of the God of Yaakov; That He may instruct us in His ways, And that we may walk in His paths.” For instruction shall come forth from Tzion, The word of Hashem from Yerushalayim. Isaiah 2:3

In addition, although the use of iron was forbidden in the construction of the first two Temples…
When the House was built, only finished stones cut at the quarry were used, so that no hammer or ax or any iron tool was heard in the House while it was being built. Kings 6:7

…because iron is associated with instruments of war, in the era of the Third Temple, peace will reign and the prohibition against the use of iron won’t apply any longer.

Finally, in Jewish thought, the building of the Third Temple is closely connected to the arrival of Moshiach, the messianic redeemer. In rabbinic thought, there is a dispute about whether the Third Temple will be built by human hands or whether it will descend from Heaven in its final form.

Although the establishment of the Third Temple contains secrets that have yet to be revealed, it is clear that we are closer to rebuilding it every day. :END QUOUTE
 

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Name Calling is ILLEGAL according to the RULES. It is obvious you really do not know what a FACIST IS. I only recommended that they should put him on IGNORE too. He has habitually tried to derail this thread into a Biblical Prophecy, THREAD that he wanted to talk about. I told him a couple times or more that if he wanted to continue this line of discussion, he should START HIS OWN THREAD. As THIS THREAD it is a NEWS from ISRAEL Thread as have done FREQUENTLY, and most recently I explained in my Post #2,252 .

You can consider this your First Warning, and according to the BIBLE I only give you two warning and the third time I put you on the IGNORE LIST, period.

Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

Just so you know My name in not VCR it is VCO.
VCR is kind of edgy though.
 

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It was reported on the WATCHMAN, but this is the Israel Antiquity Authority official Video:

 
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The third temple was destroyed in 70 ad.
Solomon's temple, destroyed by Nebuchadnezzer. The next temple restored by Gideon, was destroyed during the maccabean wars by Roman invasion led by Pompey, but was restored under Herod. This is temple #3 and it was destroyed in 70 ad.
 

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The third temple was destroyed in 70 ad.
Solomon's temple, destroyed by Nebuchadnezzer. The next temple restored by Gideon, was destroyed during the maccabean wars by Roman invasion led by Pompey, but was restored under Herod. This is temple #3 and it was destroyed in 70 ad.
About as unnecessary and irrelevant as where the new Temple will be sited!

The prophesies make it quite clear: there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem during the last few years of this Church age. What number Temple it will be, or its exact location, is totally unimportant.
 
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About as unnecessary and irrelevant as where the new Temple will be sited!

The prophesies make it quite clear: there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem during the last few years of this Church age. What number Temple it will be, or its exact location, is totally unimportant.
Site biblical evidence.
 

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Cited as requested:
2 Thessalonians 2:4...the Anti-Christ will sit in the new Temple.
Revelation 11:1... the courtyard of the Temple will be occupied by the heathens for 42 months.
Daniel 11:31...the regular offerings in the Temple will be stopped for 3 1/2 years. Also in Matthew 24:15
 
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Cited as requested:
2 Thessalonians 2:4...the Anti-Christ will sit in the new Temple.
Revelation 11:1... the courtyard of the Temple will be occupied by the heathens for 42 months.
Daniel 11:31...the regular offerings in the Temple will be stopped for 3 1/2 years. Also in Matthew 24:15
I will read them later.
 

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About as unnecessary and irrelevant as where the new Temple will be sited!

The prophesies make it quite clear: there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem during the last few years of this Church age. What number Temple it will be, or its exact location, is totally unimportant.

I will Let you off my IGNORE LIST, if you will refrain from going to OTHER AREAS of Prophecy, because that DERAILS the thread OFF SUBJECT. This is about the THIRD TEMPLE, and the Antichrist and HE WILL COME IN TO THE TEMPLE AT THE MIDDLE OF THE SEVEN WEEKS OF YEARS, which is like a PEACE TREATY, only he BRAKES THE PEACE TREATY, by demanding he will be worshipped as god. IT IS NOT GOD's SEAT if it is in the WRONG LOCATION. He will come in imitating GOD, and take a seat in the Holy of Holies. How do I know it will be in the Holy of Holies ? ? ? IT IS THE ONLY SEAT IN THE TEMPLE. You can look it up.

Like I said, IT is NOT GOD's SEAT, if they put it in the WRONG LOCATION. You are WRONG about where the New Temple will be LOCATED.
GOD HIMSELF CHOSE WHERE THE SITE WOULD BE LOCATED, no man chose the site. If you would read and watch the videos that Posted, you would find out that I COVERED ALL OF THAT VERY THOROUGHLY, A LONG TIME AGO ON THIS THREAD.


1 Chronicles 21:18-30 (ASV)
18 Then the angel of Jehovah commanded Gad {David's Prophet} to say to David, that David should go up, and rear an altar unto Jehovah in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite.
19 And David went up at the saying of Gad, which he spake in the name of Jehovah.
20 And Ornan turned back, and saw the angel; and his four sons that were with him hid themselves. Now Ornan was threshing wheat.
21 And as David came to Ornan, Ornan looked and saw David, and went out of the threshing-floor, and bowed himself to David with his face to the ground.
22 Then David said to Ornan, Give me the place of this threshing-floor, that I may build thereon an altar unto Jehovah: for the full price shalt thou give it me, that the plague may be stayed from the people.
23 And Ornan said unto David, Take it to thee, and let my lord the king do that which is good in his eyes: lo, I give thee the oxen for burnt-offerings, and the threshing instruments for wood, and the wheat for the meal-offering; I give it all.
24 And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take that which is thine for Jehovah, nor offer a burnt-offering without cost.
25 So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.
26 And David built there an altar unto Jehovah, and offered burnt-offerings and peace-offerings, and called upon Jehovah; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt-offering.
27 And Jehovah commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof.
28 At that time, when David saw that Jehovah had answered him in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite, then he sacrificed there.
29 For the tabernacle of Jehovah, which Moses made in the wilderness, and the altar of burnt-offering, were at that time in the high place at Gibeon.
30 But David could not go before it to inquire of God; for he was afraid because of the sword of the angel of Jehovah.

2 Chronicles 3:1 (HCSB)
1 Then Solomon began to build the LORD’s temple in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah {Which is the NAME OF THE ENTIRE RIDGE, running from north of the Dome of the Rock, all the way south of the Pool of Siloam} where the LORD had appeared to his father David, at the site David had prepared on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.


Jeremiah 50:28 (ESV)

28 “A voice! They flee and escape from the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion {the hill in the southwest corner of the OPHEL, where ORNAN the JEBUSITE, had his TRESHING FLOOR,} the vengeance of the LORD our God, vengeance for his temple.


There is NO FLAT BEDROCK under the DOME OF THE ROCK, NO LIVING WATER (water from a running spring), and that fortified complex was FORTRESS ANTONIA, home of the 10,000 Troops and Support Staff of the ROMAN TENTH LEGION.

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There is the SITE of the TEMPLE, a plowed Potato field. Where is the HILL ? ? ? Prince Simon bar Kokhba was preparing it to build the TEMPLE, ordered it turned into a ROCK QUARRY, to get the BEDROCK removed to be lower that the surround GROUND, because the ROMANS Built a Temple to JUPITOR on the SITE of the TEMPLE, some time after 70 A.D. The project to get rid of the defiled BEDROCK, started in 132 A.D. But in 135 A.D., Prince Simon was KILLED by the Roman counterstrike near Jerusalem, so he only removed the Bedrock, and never got the TEMPLE STARTED.

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This two examples the of a Threshing Floor are smaller that Ornan's. So the foundation of the TEMPLE was formed on top Ornan's Threshing Floor. I imagine, the BEST kind of Threshing Floor was one the hewn out bedrock. So the Threshing Floor was a FLAT TOP HILL called ZION, on the RIDGE called Mount Moriah.
 

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I made a mistake in the above POST. Where I said:

"to get the BEDROCK removed to be lower that the surround GROUND,"

It should say: "to get the BEDROCK removed to be almost level with the surrounding GROUND,"

Also after that I should have quoted the following verse:

Jeremiah 26:18 (GW)
18 “Micah from Moresheth prophesied at the time of Judah's King Hezekiah and said to all the people of Judah,
‘This is what the LORD of Armies says:

Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a pile of rubble,
and the temple mountain will become a worship site covered with trees.'


The trees had to have been there before this Picture Jerusalem from the south, was taken in 1915. In fact wouldn't it be Logical to have a Shelter Belt of trees along that location of the LONE TREE west of the Farm House, for wind Protection and Erosion, down hill from that site? During the Dust Bowl Days the put in all kinds of Shelter Belts, here in NEBRASKA. Nowadays, young farmers have FORGOTTEN why their Grandfathers PLANTED THOSE TREES. Nowadays there are only a few of the SHELTER BELTS left. They cut them down to get a few more rows of Corn Planted. I figure that is why those trees in that Picture were cut down, too.

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Now you see that LONE TREE in the PICTURE, that is an estimate of about where, in that 1915 photo of Jerusalem,
that the WARREN's SHAFT comes out. Right up to the Slaughtering Tables in the TEMPLE, and drains west in the stream that is out west of the Pool of Siloam. So if you block with rocks, BOTH of the lower exit holes, the natural Siphon effect force the water up and gushes up and out inside the TEMPLE COMPLEX. In fact that is what Gihon means, it means Gushes Up. So there had to be a trench along right side of the temple, flowing back to the rear of the TEMPLE, and down into that Stream. One chart I saw, labeled the Slaughtering Tables just inside the Men's Quarter to the right, in that corner.

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So the part of Warren's Shaft labeled "access tunnel" flows Northwest from the Gihon Springs. That Photo, is above your head inside Hezekiah's Tunnel, and some sun light comes through it.