Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible

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And when all else fails...insult, call people idolaters for believing God has preserved His word in the English language.
In other words, do what you have been doing every time we get to this subject.

 
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Why? Were the "originals" in every language?
The origionals are the only ones which can be trusted. For that very case.

There is a reason God did not use english as the origional.. If you would understand this, you would maybe finally understand why people argue against KJV onlyism so much.
 
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I've never insulted anyone.
You do by saying their version of scripture is from satan.

See the issue, Its ok for you to say that, insulting them, But not ok for people to say you follow an idle

Even though by the very defenition of an idle. Well, I think people get the picture.
 

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The origionals are the only ones which can be trusted. For that very case.

There is a reason God did not use english as the origional.. If you would understand this, you would maybe finally understand why people argue against KJV onlyism so much.
And since we don't have the "originals," we have nothing we can trust?

If you could understand that the God we serve is capable of preserving His pure words even into English. That's our God.
 

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You do by saying their version of scripture is from satan.

See the issue, Its ok for you to say that, insulting them, But not ok for people to say you follow an idle

Even though by the very defenition of an idle. Well, I think people get the picture.
I defend the KJV and, if need be, call out the perversions. That's not personal attacks. You have a version? Which one do you trust?
 
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And since we don't have the "originals," we have nothing we can trust?
Oh, Unlike you, I trust God has kept his word in tact, There may be some varrying differences in some things, but his word. The truth, is in tact.

I do not believe God had to 1600 years later have his word interpreted into a horrific language, which has so many issues by itself. It is an untrustworthy source. And say that everyone from that point on has to use it as an original to be interreted into all other languages.


If you could understand that the God we serve is capable of preserving His pure words even into English. That's our God.
Oh I think he could if he wanted to. (I do not think he needed to) Sadly for you, If he did, the word would be almost twice as large as it is (it would have to to correctly and infallibly translate the greek and hebrew and chaldian text into a perfect english language, of which there is no equal in print today nor has there ever been)

You have a word for word interpretation. Good for you. It is still flawed. Because it is NOT COMPLETE. No matter how much you think it is.
 

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Oh, Unlike you, I trust God has kept his word in tact, There may be some varrying differences in some things, but his word. The truth, is in tact.

I do not believe God had to 1600 years later have his word interpreted into a horrific language, which has so many issues by itself. It is an untrustworthy source. And say that everyone from that point on has to use it as an original to be interreted into all other languages.




Oh I think he could if he wanted to. (I do not think he needed to) Sadly for you, If he did, the word would be almost twice as large as it is (it would have to to correctly and infallibly translate the greek and hebrew and chaldian text into a perfect english language, of which there is no equal in print today nor has there ever been)

You have a word for word interpretation. Good for you. It is still flawed. Because it is NOT COMPLETE. No matter how much you think it is.
Curious, what version do you mostly trust?
 
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I defend the KJV and, if need be, call out the perversions. That's not personal attacks. You have a version? Which one do you trust?
You defend by attacking

If the KJV was as you say, You would never need to stoop low by attacking others saying their bible is from satan, Your arguments would stand on truth according to the word. And the use and rules of language, They don't. So your FORCED to attack people. Because thats all you have

Stop yelling at people saying they are attacking you when you attack them

This holier than thou crap of its ok for you but not everyone else is intollerable. Thats why people DISPISE trying to even have a conversation wich people like you. Because you do the very thing you demand others not do to you.
 
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Curious, what version do you mostly trust?
I use the NKJV, But I trust no version.

I do not trust the english language, thats why I do not trust any english bible 100%
 
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In all other areas of study,


And if you conclude the NASB, ESV, NIV or any other single version to be the word of God, then all others are false. It's either one or none. Most on here, I guess, would vote none, there is no Bible we can trust to be the holy, pure words of God that we can trust.
You're not able to use reason, that's the entire problem. Well, a lot of it.
 
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I am still waiting for any one of the KJV onliers to answer my question.

Why , if God inspired the KJV, did he not tell the writters how to correctly TRSANSLATE the word baptizo. Why did the authors have to TRANSLITERATE the word. Which has since caused massive division in the church ever since, because the correct DEFENITION is not used in the text.
 

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You defend by attacking

If the KJV was as you say, You would never need to stoop low by attacking others saying their bible is from satan, Your arguments would stand on truth according to the word. And the use and rules of language, They don't. So your FORCED to attack people. Because thats all you have

Stop yelling at people saying they are attacking you when you attack them

This holier than thou crap of its ok for you but not everyone else is intollerable. Thats why people DISPISE trying to even have a conversation wich people like you. Because you do the very thing you demand others not do to you.
I have pointed out errors in the new versions that contradict themselves.
 
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I have pointed out errors in the new versions that contradict themselves.
As we have pointed out errors in the KJV that not ony contradict itself. But are outright false interpretations.

What good is it if you prove an error in one version if you refuse to acknowledge the error in your own?
 

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I use the NKJV, But I trust no version.

I do not trust the english language, thats why I do not trust any english bible 100%
How do you know what God has said? Does knowing the truth, the whole truth concern you? What do you tell others, the lost about the bible you read? Are you honest and tell them it can be trusted? Trust Jesus, but some of it is not trustworthy?
 

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You're not able to use reason, that's the entire problem. Well, a lot of it.
It stands to reason that only one can be the true word of God, or none. There is no other choice since they ALL contain different words and different truths.
 
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How do you know what God has said? Does knowing the truth, the whole truth concern you? What do you tell others, the lost about the bible you read? Are you honest and tell them it can be trusted? Trust Jesus, but some of it is not trustworthy?
Gods word speaks for itself. It is in unity. If I see a passage which APPEARS to contradict. I study further, why do they appear to contradict. Is it a word usage? A scribal error> Or a translation error? If I do this with an open mind, No version of scripture can lead me astray.

At the same time, I know Gods word in any englsih text is lacking due to the english language itself. In knowing this, I can always look to the origional text (all of them) to find what God is really tryign to say.

I have faith in God Not some old english translation.

Are you going to answer my question about baptizo? Or continue to ignore it?
 

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As we have pointed out errors in the KJV that not ony contradict itself. But are outright false interpretations.

What good is it if you prove an error in one version if you refuse to acknowledge the error in your own?

You have not pointed out contradictions in truth. The so called errors are only opinions.

ESV 2 Samuel 21:19 And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

ESV 1 Chronicles 20:5 And there was again war with the Philistines, and Elhanan the son of Jair struck down Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

Who did Elhanan kill? I thought David slew Goliath.