The Tabernacle in the Wilderness
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Hebrews 9
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The Earthly Tabernacle
(Exodus 25:1-9; Exodus 40:1-33)
1Now the first covenanta had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2A tabernacle was prepared. In its first room were the lampstand, the table, and the consecrated bread. This was called the Holy Place. 3Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place,b 4containing the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5Above the ark were the cherubim of glory, overshadowing the mercy seat.c But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.
6When everything had been prepared in this way, the priests entered regularly into the first room to perform their sacred duties. 7But only the high priest entered the second room, and then only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance.
8By this arrangement the Holy Spirit was showing that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing. 9It is an illustration for the present time, because the gifts and sacrifices being offered were unable to cleanse the conscience of the worshiper. 10They consist only in food and drink and special washings—external regulations imposed until the time of reform.
Redemption through His Blood
11But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come,d He went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made by hands and is not of this creation. 12He did not enter by the blood of goats and calves, but He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, thus securing eternal redemption.
13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that their bodies are clean, 14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify oure consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!
the above passage from Hebrews 9 clears any misunderstanding regarding the blood of Christ and does away with the oneness misapplication of the OT cleansing ritual as a comparison to immersion in water (baptism)
it is ONLY the blood of Christ that has obtained forgiveness for sin from God
your continued insistence otherwise, marks you as someone Paul would have not problem telling others to steer clear of
this, is why I continue to refute your heretical teaching that baptism cleanses from sin
Berean Study Bible Par ▾
The Earthly Tabernacle
(Exodus 25:1-9; Exodus 40:1-33)
1Now the first covenanta had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2A tabernacle was prepared. In its first room were the lampstand, the table, and the consecrated bread. This was called the Holy Place. 3Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place,b 4containing the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5Above the ark were the cherubim of glory, overshadowing the mercy seat.c But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.
6When everything had been prepared in this way, the priests entered regularly into the first room to perform their sacred duties. 7But only the high priest entered the second room, and then only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance.
8By this arrangement the Holy Spirit was showing that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing. 9It is an illustration for the present time, because the gifts and sacrifices being offered were unable to cleanse the conscience of the worshiper. 10They consist only in food and drink and special washings—external regulations imposed until the time of reform.
Redemption through His Blood
11But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come,d He went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made by hands and is not of this creation. 12He did not enter by the blood of goats and calves, but He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, thus securing eternal redemption.
13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that their bodies are clean, 14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify oure consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!
the above passage from Hebrews 9 clears any misunderstanding regarding the blood of Christ and does away with the oneness misapplication of the OT cleansing ritual as a comparison to immersion in water (baptism)
it is ONLY the blood of Christ that has obtained forgiveness for sin from God
your continued insistence otherwise, marks you as someone Paul would have not problem telling others to steer clear of
this, is why I continue to refute your heretical teaching that baptism cleanses from sin
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Christ's blood did secure eternal redemption. The question is how do people have that eternal redemption applied to them personally? You state just believe in Jesus. I say the Word gives instructions that require obedience after one has believed in Jesus as the sacrificial lamb of God. That is where we differ.
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but you do not really believe that
apparently you are not an honest person and you cannot address the portion of scripture from Hebrews
do you not have the entire Bible?
perhaps just the Baptismal Regeneration With Tongues or Burn in Hell Bible?
where we differ, is that I believe that the blood of Christ is sufficient for the remission of sin
here, again, is what you state in your op and in various other posts, what you actually believe:
again, stating that baptism saves
from the op, again:
1. Acceptance of Jesus sacrifice and repentance
2. Water Baptism (receive the priestly garments)
3. Infilling of the Holy Ghost
4. Priestly office secured
5. Blood of Jesus sacrifice is applied
Jesus does not save a person unless they first are water baptize
yet, the Bible clearly teaches that you receive Christ and then are water baptized
if someone receives Christ, number one on the op list, they are saved there. everything else follows
water regeneration is not taught in scripture
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You can state what you like. However, I do believe Jesus' blood did secure eternal redemption:
Again, The question is how do people have that eternal redemption applied to them personally? You state just believe in Jesus. I say the Word gives instructions that require obedience after one has believed in Jesus as the sacrificial lamb of God. That is where we differ.
Did Jesus not say: He who believes and is baptized shall be saved?
Again, The question is how do people have that eternal redemption applied to them personally? You state just believe in Jesus. I say the Word gives instructions that require obedience after one has believed in Jesus as the sacrificial lamb of God. That is where we differ.
Did Jesus not say: He who believes and is baptized shall be saved?
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did not Jesus say HE WHO BELIEVES?
why then do you put baptism first?
I have no argument with being baptized and neither does anyone else here
you however, would like to argue with Jesus and tell Him he has it wrong
kindly explain your understanding from the following. I am sure you will glad to do that since you are forever telling everyone else to respond to scripture that you paste
Hebrews 9
Berean Study Bible Par ▾
The Earthly Tabernacle
(Exodus 25:1-9; Exodus 40:1-33)
1Now the first covenanta had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2A tabernacle was prepared. In its first room were the lampstand, the table, and the consecrated bread. This was called the Holy Place. 3Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place,b 4containing the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5Above the ark were the cherubim of glory, overshadowing the mercy seat.c But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.
6When everything had been prepared in this way, the priests entered regularly into the first room to perform their sacred duties. 7But only the high priest entered the second room, and then only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance.
8By this arrangement the Holy Spirit was showing that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing. 9It is an illustration for the present time, because the gifts and sacrifices being offered were unable to cleanse the conscience of the worshiper. 10They consist only in food and drink and special washings—external regulations imposed until the time of reform.
Redemption through His Blood
11But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come,d He went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made by hands and is not of this creation. 12He did not enter by the blood of goats and calves, but He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, thus securing eternal redemption.
13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that their bodies are clean, 14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify oureconsciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!
the above passage from Hebrews 9 clears any misunderstanding regarding the blood of Christ and does away with the oneness misapplication of the OT cleansing ritual as a comparison to immersion in water (baptism)
it is ONLY the blood of Christ that has obtained forgiveness for sin from God
your continued insistence otherwise, marks you as someone Paul would have not problem telling others to steer clear of
this, is why I continue to refute your heretical teaching that baptism cleanses from sin
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You assume much. I was out running errands and did not even see the post until this minute. And it would be great to have a discussion without you interjecting rudeness.
What you shared explains the difference between the particulars of the OT blood sacrifice and the NT blood sacrifice made by Jesus. This information does not address how the blood of Jesus is applied to individuals. As I said, I do believe Jesus' blood did secure eternal redemption. But although redemption was secured for all, not all will take hold of it. This is evidenced throughout history.
Again, The question is how do people have that eternal redemption applied to them personally? You state just believe in Jesus. I say the Word gives instructions that require obedience after one has believed in Jesus as the sacrificial lamb of God. That is where we differ.
And though you refuse to accept it, Jesus did say those who believe and get baptized shall be saved. He also goes on to say that those who do not believe are damned already. Therefore getting baptized without actually believing will not save anyone. The obedience must be accompanied by true faith.
What you shared explains the difference between the particulars of the OT blood sacrifice and the NT blood sacrifice made by Jesus. This information does not address how the blood of Jesus is applied to individuals. As I said, I do believe Jesus' blood did secure eternal redemption. But although redemption was secured for all, not all will take hold of it. This is evidenced throughout history.
Again, The question is how do people have that eternal redemption applied to them personally? You state just believe in Jesus. I say the Word gives instructions that require obedience after one has believed in Jesus as the sacrificial lamb of God. That is where we differ.
And though you refuse to accept it, Jesus did say those who believe and get baptized shall be saved. He also goes on to say that those who do not believe are damned already. Therefore getting baptized without actually believing will not save anyone. The obedience must be accompanied by true faith.
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well no I don't assume much. just the opposite
you have been educating us for months now
only going what I read in your posts
still nothing on Hebrews? speaks volumes I don't count your appraisal that I shared something between the testaments. that's just silly
you do not seem able to discuss the verses concerning the blood of Christ that I posted from Hebrews
if you cannot do that, I find that kind of alarming
the truth of this matter is
Redemption through His Blood
11But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come,d He went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made by hands and is not of this creation. 12He did not enter by the blood of goats and calves, but He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, thus securing eternal redemption.
13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that their bodies are clean, 14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify oureconsciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!
we have redemption only through the blood of Christ. nothing to do with baptism. baptism is an ordinance...not at part of salvation
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when Ananias lied about the amont of money he received for the land he sold, Peter said 'why has the devil filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit?'
that is an interesting why. it seems to suggest that Ananias ALLOWED something to happen he could have prevented
so now I'm asking you, why do you allow yourself to lie and say that Christians deny the commandment for water baptism?
I know that no one here, that I am aware of, has ever ever denied that baptism to identify with Christ in his death and resurrection
yet you and a few others continue to tell that lie and we continue to tell you that you are lying
are you so far past telling the truth now that you have to continue in this lie?
you teach that baptism takes away sin. that is heretical teaching
now if you continue to put your laughing faces on posts when no joke is intended, I guess we will have to assume that you find the truth to be funny and you enjoy mockery
enjoy it while you can
that is an interesting why. it seems to suggest that Ananias ALLOWED something to happen he could have prevented
so now I'm asking you, why do you allow yourself to lie and say that Christians deny the commandment for water baptism?
I know that no one here, that I am aware of, has ever ever denied that baptism to identify with Christ in his death and resurrection
yet you and a few others continue to tell that lie and we continue to tell you that you are lying
are you so far past telling the truth now that you have to continue in this lie?
you teach that baptism takes away sin. that is heretical teaching
now if you continue to put your laughing faces on posts when no joke is intended, I guess we will have to assume that you find the truth to be funny and you enjoy mockery
enjoy it while you can
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