The key to the Pre-Trib Rapture:

[Major]

430-70 (time served) = 360 (Ezek 4, 2Chr 36)
360 X 7 = 2520 (Lev 26)

Captivity of the nation 607BC (first seige of Nebuchadnezzar) + 2520 years = May 14, 1948
Desolations of Jerusalem 587BC (third siege of Nebuchadnezzar) + 2520 years = June 7, 1967

BTW......the precise date of the start and finish of the Desolations of Jerusalem are noted in Ezek 24:1-2 and Hag 2:10......!

Read the complete dissertation here it is entirely interesting. And timely to be sure.

www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html

In 538 B.C. Daniel wrote the following bold prediction:

Daniel 9:25
“So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks of years and sixty-two weeks of years”

Daniel claimed there would be 69 “weeks of years” between the issuing of a decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the appearance of the Messiah. In 464 BC, Artaxerxes, a Persian king, ascended to the throne. Nehemiah, the Jewish cupbearer to King Artaxerxes, was deeply concerned about the ruined condition of Jerusalem following the defeat of the Jews (Nehemiah 1:1-4). As a result, he petitioned the king:

Nehemiah 2:5,6
“Send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it. So it pleased the king to send me”.

According to the Old Testament, the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem was issued “in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king” (Nehemiah 2:1). The Jewish calendar month was Nisan, and since no day is given, it is reasonable to assume the date would be understood as the first, the Jewish New Year’s Day. And, in the Julian calendar we presently use, the corresponding date would be March 14, 445 BC.
(an important feature of the Jewish prophetic year: It was comprised of twelve 30 day months (it had 360 days, not 365 days).

The exact date which lines up with REAL hisory was March 14, 445 B.C. That was the order to rebuild Jerusalm.
Palm SUnday, the day Jesus PRESENTED Himself to Israel as their Messiah was, March 30, 33 AD.

That my friend is exactly 173,880 days to the DAY that Daniel predicted.
https://www.godreports.com/2019/03/...nto the Canon of Scripture: Deuteronomy 18:22

69 x 7 x 360 = 173,880 days

 

[Major]

The moral of the story is, to respectfully post the translation used, and after all this you still haven't revealed it, happy face

ESV. KJV. NKJV. HoLman. Amplified.

Pick one.........

 

[Major]

You mean if I follow the teachings of John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield that you follow and promote, then I get a big gold star and happy face sticker on my paper?

It appears your desire for civility, is agreement with Darby & Scofields false teachings in (Dispensationalism)

I do not know......neither do I care about your penchant for demeaning past Bible Preachers and teachers.

My guess however is that the ability you have to do this is embetted in the ability to hide behind a computer screen.
My experience in life is that those who talk the most always do the least.

For those who have been reading your demeaning comments, you all need to know that Pastor Scofield was a significant American theologian, writer, and pastor who is best known for his Scofield Reference Bible, one of the most influential theological works of the 20th century. In it, he popularized Dispensationalism, which uses the literal, grammatical, and historical system of biblical interpretation and, therefore, separates Israel and the church. Because of this hermeneutic, Scofield saw in God’s Word a resurrection for the nation of Israel long before there was any hope of a modern Jewish state which actually happened on May 14, 1948.

Pastor Scofield’s work spread systematized Dispensationalism like no other. In addition to producing the Scofield Reference Bible, Scofield is known for cofounding Philadelphia School of the Bible (now Cairn University) and founding the Central American Mission (now Camino Global).

Personally, and I mean every word of this .........You should be ashamed for your derogatory remarks about one of Christianity's GIANTS.

Again, Personally.....I do not care even ONE LITTLE bit that you do not agree with his teaching and comments because I do not care
ONE LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FALSE COMMENTS!

 

[Major]

You mean if I follow the teachings of John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield that you follow and promote, then I get a big gold star and happy face sticker on my paper?

It appears your desire for civility, is agreement with Darby & Scofields false teachings in (Dispensationalism)

YES............

I would say by what I have read from you that you lean to the Covenant Theology aproach to Scriptures so then Dispensational Theology is of very little concern to you.

My guess is that you do not even know the meaning of the word which is why you put it down.

It means TIME......However it means more than just TIME.

Although a period of time is obviously involved, a dispensation is a stewardship or a way in which God administers His will in this world. So what He required of Adam is different from Abraham which is different from Moses which is different from Peter and Paul.

Also, dispensations are not different ways of salvation. Probably due to some unclear statements made in the past by some dispensational theologians, it has been concluded that dispensational theology teaches different ways of being saved. That is not the case. Salvation has always been by faith based on the finished work of Christ on the cross.

 

[Truth7t7]

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

That has nothing to do with Christ not ruling out of Jerusalem but Jesus is saying do not believe anyone is the Christ but Jesus, and He will never appear in the flesh again for when He rules out of Jerusalem He will have a glorified body the same as the saints that rule with Him.

That is why Jesus said there will be many false Christs but do not believe them for only Jesus is the Christ who will never appear in flesh again.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

Jesus shall be King over all the earth and in that day there shall be one LORD, and His name one, which means the heathen will not acknowledge any God or religious figure but only Jesus, and the knowledge of the LORD shall fill the whole earth which it will only be Jesus' ways on earth which He rules the earth with a rod of iron.

The heathen have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship Jesus which there is no heathen in heaven and there is no heathen at the New Jerusalem so it has to be on this physical earth.

Which this has not happened in the past so it has to be in the future.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

God will restore the kingdom to Israel in the future and all the Jews will be back on their land.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

God will bring the whole house of Israel back to their land and leave none of them in the nations anymore, and they shall know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from then again, which they will always be in the truth and never stray again.

Which the heathen shall know that God was always on Israel's side but they lost the kingdom temporarily but God will restore the kingdom back to Israel.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Israel shall never cease from being a nation and God always restores Israel and He will do it again, and that is why the 12 tribes of Israel, and the 12 apostles of the Lamb are written in the New Jerusalem.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The Jews will not see Jesus again until they acknowledge Jesus as their Lord and Savior, so Israel as a nation has to come to the truth.

The New Age Christ, man of sin, will establish peace in the Middle East and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land but God means it for good towards the Jews.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus came to fulfill the law which He is a sinless man obeying God's commandments and loving people perfectly, and has to fulfill all the roles of Israel, perfect King, perfect High Priest, Prophet, Saint, Mediator, and whatever else He has to fulfill, and perfect Temple and Sacrifice.

But He has not fulfilled the role of perfect King yet for He came as a humble servant, and it must be on earth.

That is what the millennial reign is about Jesus fulfilling the role of perfect King on earth, and then heaven and earth shall pass away and the saints will be at the New Jerusalem which is a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be, and sin will never come up again.

As Matthew 24:23-27 clearly states, Jesus won't be any place upon (This Earth) Go Not Forth, Believe It Not!

Isaiah Chapter 11 & Zechariah Chapter 14 represent the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven And Earth, Not A Millennium on this earth.

Ezekiel Chapter 39 represents the Zerubbabel 2nd temple, built in 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity and destroyed in 70AD

There will be no Millennial Kingdom On this earth, Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire.

 

[Major]

I appreciate your honesty, but doubt that you will follow your stated words, time will tell?

When are you going to stop teaching Jesus Christ returns to Mount Zion, when Zechariah 14:4 clearly teaches the Mount Of Olives, and you have been shown this truth several times?

And yes, you still are in denial of the Lords second coming in fire, dissolving the heavens and earth, before your eyes, when the Lord is revealed, appears, comes, its fire time (Denial) a huge (Error)

Zechariah 14:4 .......
"On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south."

 

[Truth7t7]

I do not know......neither do I care about your penchant for demeaning past Bible Preachers and teachers.

My guess however is that the ability you have to do this is embetted in the ability to hide behind a computer screen.
My experience in life is that those who talk the most always do the least.

For those who have been reading your demeaning comments, you all need to know that Pastor Scofield was a significant American theologian, writer, and pastor who is best known for his Scofield Reference Bible, one of the most influential theological works of the 20th century. In it, he popularized Dispensationalism, which uses the literal, grammatical, and historical system of biblical interpretation and, therefore, separates Israel and the church. Because of this hermeneutic, Scofield saw in God’s Word a resurrection for the nation of Israel long before there was any hope of a modern Jewish state which actually happened on May 14, 1948.

Pastor Scofield’s work spread systematized Dispensationalism like no other. In addition to producing the Scofield Reference Bible, Scofield is known for cofounding Philadelphia School of the Bible (now Cairn University) and founding the Central American Mission (now Camino Global).

Personally, and I mean every word of this .........You should be ashamed for your derogatory remarks about one of Christianity's GIANTS.

Again, Personally.....I do not care even ONE LITTLE bit that you do not agree with his teaching and comments because I do not care
ONE LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FALSE COMMENTS!

You forget the part about Scofield abandoning his wife Leotine and two daughters Abigail & Helene in Kansas?

Scofield ran off to Dallas, pastoring a small church where he met Hettie Van Wart 17 years younger, he divorced Leotine and married Hettie, Scofield and Hettie produced the 1909 reference bible,while in the sin of (Adultery)

Scofield died in 1921 while remaining married to a woman Hettie Van Wart, while his wife Leotine lived (Adultery)

C I Scofield is a Corrupt Tree, and his 1909 reference bible is Corrupt Fruit

Matthew 7:16-18KJV
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

CI Scofield Find A Grave

 

[Truth7t7]

Zechariah 14:4 .......
"On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south."

Yes, Zechariah Chapter 14 (The Day Of The Lord)

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

[Evmur]

We need to keep two things in mind regarding the Hebrew Christians (who were first in order of the Gospel being preached). They had been under the Law of Moses for about 1,500 years and even Jesus of Nazareth had been under the Law. He upheld the Law as it was meant to be upheld (not the tradition of the elders or the traditions of men). He even arranged for the Passover Feast exactly as all the other Jews had done. So after Christ was resurrected, the transition to the liberty of Christ could not have happened overnight. We must therefore make allowance for Peter and all the other Jewish Christians. As we see from the epistles of Peter, he had also moved away from the Law later on.

Secondly, Acts 15 makes it crystal clear that the apostles and elders, including Peter would NOT impose the Law on Gentile converts. It was the Judaizers who were stirring up trouble. So what you have said above is incorrect.

Furthermore, Paul was from Tarsus, so he was more familiar with Gentiles, and had no doubt been interacting with Gentiles all his life. Therefore it was far easier for Paul to move away from the Law and preach the liberty of Christ. Paul was able to totally renounce his past and start afresh with Christ.

No but Peter withdrew from the Gentiles at Antioch and Paul withstood him to his face for he was to be blamed.

I do not condemn Peter, I understand why it was hard for them to get their heads around the new situation but their inadequacy has to be noticed ... that is why Paul is raised up, he is apostle to the Gentiles.

They did indeed come round to Paul's position and the firm decision was taken, they would go to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles.

 

[Evmur]

The Bible can be misunderstood and poorly divided even by well-read people. It happens. It's a complicated book in my honest opinion. Have you considered that Revelation is divided up into parallel teachings?

Seems plausible, but it doesn't exactly say where each teaching ends and another begins nor does it expressly state this is the case, but there is good evidence to suggest it is so.

In any case, keeping in step with the rest of the New Testament, the rapture occurs post-great tribulation at the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Ever wonder how it's possible for two sober minded and intelligent people to look at the same texts and come to two vastly different conclusions? In case of the rapture doctrine, it's usually because of biases. People form their interpretation around single ideas that aren't clearly stated.

Someone, somewhere, wanted the rapture to be pre-trib so he created a doctrine and deceived the world with it.

I'll just stick with Matthew 24:29-31 and trust Jesus.

Very good.

I would say this

It is so much better to form your eschatological view from the open scriptures, there is plenty, then make your reading of Revelations fit in with the open statements.

People forming their views from Revelations are on dodgy grounds .... most of Revelations concerns the then converted Jews, the church is seen in heaven from the 6th chapter on. The church is only concerned up until the rapture.

 

[Evmur]

Jesus Christ Warned His Followers Of Your Teaching, Jesus Christ Wont Be Found Any Place Upon This Earth,

This Teaching Is Preparing The Way For The Man Of Sin, The Antichrist!

"Go Not Forth" "Believe It Not"

Reader Beware!

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

far out man

When He comes in the clouds every eye shall see Him, there is no secret coming, no secret rapture .... but He does come to reign, He is Lord of both Heaven and Earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

far out man

When He comes in the clouds every eye shall see Him, there is no secret coming, no secret rapture .... but He does come to reign, He is Lord of both Heaven and Earth.

Jesus Christ will Appear, Reveal, Come, in the heavens, in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth, as you have been shown "several times"

Your claim that Jesus Christ returns to earth, starting a Millennial Kingdom with mortal humans present?

A false teaching, setting the unaware up for the future Antichrist.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ Wont Be Found Anyplace Upon Earth

"Go Not Forth" Believe It Not"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[Evmur]

Jesus Christ will Appear, Reveal, Come, in the heavens, in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth, as you have been shown "several times"

Your claim that Jesus Christ returns to earth, starting a Millennial Kingdom with mortal humans present?

A false teaching, setting the unaware up for the future Antichrist.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ Wont Be Found Anyplace Upon Earth

"Go Not Forth" Believe It Not"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

It's US who will not be found anywhere on earth when He comes, we will be in the clouds with Him.

Isaiah 2. 2-4
It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains and shall be raised above the hills

and all nations shall flow to it and many peoples will come and say "come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob that He may teach us His ways that we may walk in His paths.

For out of Zion shall go forth the law and the word of God from Jerusalem

He shall judge between many nations and decide for many peoples

They shall beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks
nation shall not lift up sword against nation
neither shall they learn war any more.

When will these prophecies be realised? in the latter days says Isaiah.

Given that Jesus has told us that His soon arrival will be marked by wars and rumours of war, famine, earthquake and disaster you can see that this prophecy cannot take place except AFTER Jesus returns. Worldwide righteousness peace and plenty.

After He has destroyed Antichrist and all those who come up with him and received his mark ... He will set up His kingdom and He will reign. Satan will be bound for 1, 000 years.

Is he now bound? no but he shall be.

 

[Truth7t7]

It's US who will not be found anywhere on earth when He comes, we will be in the clouds with Him.

Isaiah 2. 2-4
It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains and shall be raised above the hills

and all nations shall flow to it and many peoples will come and say "come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob that He may teach us His ways that we may walk in His paths.

For out of Zion shall go forth the law and the word of God from Jerusalem

He shall judge between many nations and decide for many peoples

They shall beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks
nation shall not lift up sword against nation
neither shall they learn war any more.

When will these prophecies be realised? in the latter days says Isaiah.

Given that Jesus has told us that His soon arrival will be marked by wars and rumours of war, famine, earthquake and disaster you can see that this prophecy cannot take place except AFTER Jesus returns. Worldwide righteousness peace and plenty.

After He has destroyed Antichrist and all those who come up with him and received his mark ... He will set up His kingdom and He will reign. Satan will be bound for 1, 000 years.

Is he now bound? no but he shall be.

Isaiah 2 is (The Day Of The Lord), the kingdom seen is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven and Earth (After) this Day, all nations will flow unto the (New Jerusalem) Mount Zion

Revelations 21:24-26KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Once again, you disregard the (Fact) below, Jesus Christ returns in fire and Judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth, on (The Day Of The Lord)

(Destroyed Them All)

Isaiah 2:12KJV
12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

[Evmur]

Isaiah 2 is (The Day Of The Lord), the kingdom seen is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven and Earth (After) this Day, all nations will flow unto the (New Jerusalem) Mount Zion

Revelations 21:24-26KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Once again, you disregard the (Fact) below, Jesus Christ returns in fire and Judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth, on (The Day Of The Lord)

(Destroyed Them All)

Isaiah 2:12KJV
12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

I want you to answer my question, when will the prophecy of Isaiah 2.2-4. be fulfilled?

If you quote the new heavens and the new earth of Revelations 21 you must believe it is a literal prophecy and will be fulfilled ... what about the prophecy of chapter 20 which speaks about the saints reigning with Christ for 1, 000 years? while Satan is bound

After the 1,000 years Satan is loosed and will deceive the nations once more ... you can't accept chapter 21 and just ignore chapter 20.

So I say to you the day of the Lord is 1,000 years and the prophecies you quote happen at the end of the 1, 000 years.

 

[Truth7t7]

I want you to answer my question, when will the prophecy of Isaiah 2.2-4. be fulfilled?

You Sure Dont Want To Acknowledge (FIRE) "COMPLETE SILENCE"

I Clearly Answered You Below, Once Again The Kingdom Seen Is In The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem (After) The Day Of The Lord, At The (Second Coming)

Isaiah 2 is (The Day Of The Lord), the kingdom seen is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven and Earth (After) this Day, all nations will flow unto the (New Jerusalem) Mount Zion

Revelations 21:24-26KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Once again, you disregard the (Fact) below, Jesus Christ returns in fire and Judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth, on (The Day Of The Lord)

(Destroyed Them All)

Isaiah 2:12KJV
12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

[Evmur]

When Jesus comes He destroys Antichrist and all who have received his mark, I answered you. The church is gathered.

I say once again you can't quote ch 21 Revs and ignore ch 20 when after the 1, 000 years reign Satan is loosed once more. The new heavens/earth comes after this event.

 

[Truth7t7]

If you quote the new heavens and the new earth of Revelations 21 you must believe it is a literal prophecy and will be fulfilled ... what about the prophecy of chapter 20 which speaks about the saints reigning with Christ for 1, 000 years? while Satan is bound

The things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 aren't found below?

1.) NO Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) NO Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) NO Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time, one day is a thousand years in the Lords spiritual realm (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% Is The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

(Symbolic Not Literal)

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Evmur]

The things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 aren't found below?

1.) NO Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) NO Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) NO Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time, one day is a thousand years in the Lords spiritual realm (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% Is The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

(Symbolic Not Literal)

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

You left off the bit about the nations being deceived once more after the 1,000 years ... why did you leave that out?

 

[Truth7t7]

After the 1,000 years Satan is loosed and will deceive the nations once more ... you can't accept chapter 21 and just ignore chapter 20.

Satan Is "Currently Bound", As The Saints "Currently Reign" (In The Spiritual Realm), And This (Symbolic) 1,000 Years Ceases At The Second Coming, Immediately After The Tribulation.

Satan is bound from one specific purpose (Deceive The Nations) this isnt general deception, or all evil on earth as many Millennialist falsely claim, its (Deceive The Nations) to the final battle as clearly interpreted in Rev 20:7-8 & Rev 16:12-15 below, just prior to the second coming.

(Scripture Interprets Itself, Before Your Eyes)

Revelation 20:3KJV
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

As is "Clearly Seen" (Deceive The Nations) is to battle, the seal and binding of Satan is seen in the 6th Vial, Rev 16:12 that must be poured out, then he is loosed to (Deceive The Nations)

Revelation 20:7-8KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Rev 16:12-15 below, is a "Parallel" teaching of Rev 20:7-8, the 6th vial is poured out, Satan is loosed.

(The Deception) is devils going forth to the Kings of the Nations, to gather them to battle, the 6th vial below was the binding of Satan in Rev 20:3, from this one specific purpose (Deceive The Nations) to battle, as verse 15 is the (Second Coming)

Rev 16:12-15KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.