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My thread as derailed and trolled. I still never found out from anyone about it here on CC.
I only asked for someone to use discernment, and at least let me know if the devil was telling me lie. My thread was then used to sow discord. To sow unbelief into people.
Here, this here is what the thread is about:
The prophecy I got was, the worlds last chance is coming.
I believe it means a revival.
If you don't believe in prophecy, then you should just ignore the thread and move on. There should be no reason to convince people to not believe, if you be a christian.
Unbelief is evil. That was wisdom and knowledge Jesus Christ gave me. Unbelief is a liar.
The devil puts unbelief into people. Because the devil is a theif and liar.
I only asked for someone to use discernment, and at least let me know if the devil was telling me lie. My thread was then used to sow discord. To sow unbelief into people.
Here, this here is what the thread is about:
The prophecy I got was, the worlds last chance is coming.
I believe it means a revival.
If you don't believe in prophecy, then you should just ignore the thread and move on. There should be no reason to convince people to not believe, if you be a christian.
Unbelief is evil. That was wisdom and knowledge Jesus Christ gave me. Unbelief is a liar.
The devil puts unbelief into people. Because the devil is a theif and liar.
With respect, unbelief is only evil if the thing being rejected is God's truth. I have a solid unbelief in anything our current prime minister says, but that is not evil on my part; rather, it's wisdom born of experience with his deplorable behaviour and complete avoidance of responsibility over the last nine years.
I believe that prophecy is for today as much as it was for the first century... but that doesn't mean I accept as divine everything people call "prophecy". What you received is very vague and can't really be tested. We don't know you personally, so we can't consider your character and credibility. Unless at least two other credible people receive witness from the Holy Spirit that what you received is genuine, we have to put it on the overloaded shelf of "maybe". That's why I responded as I did on the first page. You keep seeking the Lord. You keep asking for clarification. You record the details so that your message can be verified. Don't let a bunch of random strangers discourage you from walking in such gifts as the Holy Spirit has given you... but remember, they are firstly for the edification of the body, and secondly for the edification of the individual through which they are given.
I believe that prophecy is for today as much as it was for the first century... but that doesn't mean I accept as divine everything people call "prophecy". What you received is very vague and can't really be tested. We don't know you personally, so we can't consider your character and credibility. Unless at least two other credible people receive witness from the Holy Spirit that what you received is genuine, we have to put it on the overloaded shelf of "maybe". That's why I responded as I did on the first page. You keep seeking the Lord. You keep asking for clarification. You record the details so that your message can be verified. Don't let a bunch of random strangers discourage you from walking in such gifts as the Holy Spirit has given you... but remember, they are firstly for the edification of the body, and secondly for the edification of the individual through which they are given.
And if God no longer appoints prophets and no longer gives the gift of prophecy, as many of us believe, who is peddling unbelief?
Have you ever read any of the prophets of old to see how detailed their prophecies were?
There is nothing to even test in your so called prophecy, it is so vague as to be near meaningless.
Your thread was used to show the very real potential of there no longer being prophets and the cessation of certain gifts, prophecy being one of them.
You may not like that but if you want to be strong enough to stand and then stand and then stand some more, you'll need to get use to it.
Eph.6:12-14
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens. 13 For this reason, take up the full armor of God so that you may be able to stand your ground on the evil day, and having done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm therefore, by fastening the belt of truth around your waist, by putting on the breastplate of righteousness,
Have you ever read any of the prophets of old to see how detailed their prophecies were?
There is nothing to even test in your so called prophecy, it is so vague as to be near meaningless.
Your thread was used to show the very real potential of there no longer being prophets and the cessation of certain gifts, prophecy being one of them.
You may not like that but if you want to be strong enough to stand and then stand and then stand some more, you'll need to get use to it.
Eph.6:12-14
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens. 13 For this reason, take up the full armor of God so that you may be able to stand your ground on the evil day, and having done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm therefore, by fastening the belt of truth around your waist, by putting on the breastplate of righteousness,
On this we can agree.
As to your other post, why did God give Cornelius the gift of tongues? To confirm Peter's vision (Acts 10) that the Gentiles were to be included exactly as the Jews and that there was to be no division among Jew or Gentile.
Acts 10:45
The circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were greatly astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles,
Paul was explaining to the Corinthians the purpose of the gift of tongues. Why would he quote the passage that shows us it was given to the Jews as a warning of pending jugdement if it had no connection to judgement?
As to your other post, why did God give Cornelius the gift of tongues? To confirm Peter's vision (Acts 10) that the Gentiles were to be included exactly as the Jews and that there was to be no division among Jew or Gentile.
Acts 10:45
The circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were greatly astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles,
Paul was explaining to the Corinthians the purpose of the gift of tongues. Why would he quote the passage that shows us it was given to the Jews as a warning of pending jugdement if it had no connection to judgement?
yes I do agree with you about if it's a lie. Here these from the bible, unbelief is part of this parable spoken by Jesus.
Unbelief is the seed on the way side. The flowls eat it up. In the Devil's kingdom, unbelief makes the person forget what he even heard. Because he don't believe it. So the devil is stealing it from that person who is on the way side. Stealing it with unbelief.
We need to examine our-self, and see what ground we are on.
The devil tempts people to not believe, by telling them reasons and ideas to not believe.
Matthew 13:1-13-9 KJV
{13:1} The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat
by the sea side. {13:2} And great multitudes were gathered
together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and
the whole multitude stood on the shore. {13:3} And he
spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a
sower went forth to sow; {13:4} And when he sowed, some
[seeds] fell by the way side, and the fowls came and
devoured them up: {13:5} Some fell upon stony places,
where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung
up, because they had no deepness of earth: {13:6} And
when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. {13:7} And some fell
among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
{13:8} But other fell into good ground, and brought forth
fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
{13:9} Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Unbelief is the seed on the way side. The flowls eat it up. In the Devil's kingdom, unbelief makes the person forget what he even heard. Because he don't believe it. So the devil is stealing it from that person who is on the way side. Stealing it with unbelief.
We need to examine our-self, and see what ground we are on.
The devil tempts people to not believe, by telling them reasons and ideas to not believe.
Matthew 13:1-13-9 KJV
{13:1} The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat
by the sea side. {13:2} And great multitudes were gathered
together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and
the whole multitude stood on the shore. {13:3} And he
spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a
sower went forth to sow; {13:4} And when he sowed, some
[seeds] fell by the way side, and the fowls came and
devoured them up: {13:5} Some fell upon stony places,
where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung
up, because they had no deepness of earth: {13:6} And
when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. {13:7} And some fell
among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
{13:8} But other fell into good ground, and brought forth
fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
{13:9} Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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You can believe what you wish but it doesn't change what God has ordained. the spirit speaks to the spirit and the spirit of prophecy has not died as you will see when it comes to pass. this whole thing about how some gifts have gone away has no influence on what God decides. Now if you were able to disprove the prophecy then maybe you would be right but can you disprove it? can you disprove that there is no revival coming? it has happened before it will happen again
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The Businessmen's Revival of 1857–1858 is considered America's last nationwide revival the next one may happen this year sooner or later but it is going to happen when it does just pray you can recieve it because it is going to be unlike anything else before it. and yes I knowI am not going to recieve good responses and I am sure many will try to speak against it but I said what I meant and I meant what I said call me a false prophet if you wish but I felt the spirit speak to me to say this for those who do believe not those who don't
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is that what he said? Peter? I don't think so.
Acts 2:14
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day. 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21 And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’
Did all of these things take place? Or stopped
Blood and fire happen, vapor and smoke happen?
Moon turn into Blood
Sun turn dark
the word Shall does not mean it has. It means it is going to:
Shall come to pass in the last days
Young men Shall see visions
Old men Shall dream dreams
they Shall Prophesy
Shall call on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. Has that stopped?
The context of "I will." :
God said I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh
I will show wonders in Heaven above and signs in the earth beneath
Acts 2:14
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day. 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21 And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’
Did all of these things take place? Or stopped
Blood and fire happen, vapor and smoke happen?
Moon turn into Blood
Sun turn dark
the word Shall does not mean it has. It means it is going to:
Shall come to pass in the last days
Young men Shall see visions
Old men Shall dream dreams
they Shall Prophesy
Shall call on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. Has that stopped?
The context of "I will." :
God said I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh
I will show wonders in Heaven above and signs in the earth beneath
If you read the bibles future in the book of Revelation then you cant find that the world is turning to Christ.
The world last chance came around 2000 years ago. In the person of Jesus Christ. And is still there. For everybody who believes the gospel and turns to Christ.
If you look into the world you see that they turning more and more away from God. And even Christians listening false Spirits and angles.
Of course it can be that revivals will take here and there.
But the world will not turn to Christ.
And even Israel will not turn to Christ, till the world is starting to destroy them.
The worlds future is described in the bible.
There is no need for extra propheties.
The world last chance came around 2000 years ago. In the person of Jesus Christ. And is still there. For everybody who believes the gospel and turns to Christ.
If you look into the world you see that they turning more and more away from God. And even Christians listening false Spirits and angles.
Of course it can be that revivals will take here and there.
But the world will not turn to Christ.
And even Israel will not turn to Christ, till the world is starting to destroy them.
The worlds future is described in the bible.
There is no need for extra propheties.
Well, we will see Till now Israel had no time for living in peace.
Till now Israel had no time for living in peace.
Dan 9:25
Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.
Troubled time has been in our time
Right, we are before the 70th week. After the 70 week, the rest of Israel will accept Jesus than as Messias. Then the time of peace in Israel will start, which Joel means. We know it as Millennium. Thats my understanding from the things which have to vome.
The time between the 69 weeks and the 70th week is the time of the church.
The time between the 69 weeks and the 70th week is the time of the church.
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I agree we are before the 70th week. Those who are still alive in Israel will live into the Millenium. Troubled time began when Israel became a nation again not by the will of God but of man.
I disagree about the time between the 69th and 70th week
“It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?”
Add 3 years of ministry equals 49 years
I agree we are before the 70th week. Those who are still alive in Israel will live into the Millenium. Troubled time began when Israel became a nation again not by the will of God but of man.
I disagree about the time between the 69th and 70th week
“It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?”
Add 3 years of ministry equals 49 years