Remember Lot's Wife
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In the context of Sodom& Gomorrah, I think the salt is bad- in the sense that salt turns farmland into wastelands.
22Then the generation to come—your sons who follow you and the foreigner who comes from a distant land—will see the plagues of the land and the sicknesses the LORD has inflicted on it. 23All its soil will be a burning waste of sulfur and salt, unsown and unproductive, with no plant growing on it, just like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which the LORD overthrew in His fierce anger.
So, when she turned back, she became part of the wasteland.
22Then the generation to come—your sons who follow you and the foreigner who comes from a distant land—will see the plagues of the land and the sicknesses the LORD has inflicted on it. 23All its soil will be a burning waste of sulfur and salt, unsown and unproductive, with no plant growing on it, just like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which the LORD overthrew in His fierce anger.
So, when she turned back, she became part of the wasteland.
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I highlighted what I disagreed with, and told you why. Here it is again:
they are promising to torture and murder her on sight.
The text does not say that. You start a post by admonishing another for assuming things
the text does not say, and then proceed to make claims based on things the text does not say.
I cannot fathom you find this too difficult to understand.
Why do you try to make this into me disagreeing with what the text actually does say?
they are promising to torture and murder her on sight.
The text does not say that. You start a post by admonishing another for assuming things
the text does not say, and then proceed to make claims based on things the text does not say.
I cannot fathom you find this too difficult to understand.
Why do you try to make this into me disagreeing with what the text actually does say?
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The text says they are threatening a worse fate than what they intend for Lot's guests.
Judges 19 tells us what they intend for them: brutal abuse to the point of ultimately killing them.
If they are indeed threatening "worse" than this how can it be anything less than the threat of tortuous murder?
Judges 19 tells us what they intend for them: brutal abuse to the point of ultimately killing them.
If they are indeed threatening "worse" than this how can it be anything less than the threat of tortuous murder?
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this is a logical inference from what the text actually says.
There is however nothing in the text indicating that Mrs. Lot 'longs for a sinful life of garlic and leeks' - that presumption makes absolutely no sense to explain her actions unless we assume she is the stupidest person who ever lived and can't remember what happened 30 seconds prior.
There are really big logical holes in the standard explanation of this account.
i do not imagine her to be an idiot.
i presume that righteous Lot married an intelligent woman of good character.
There is however nothing in the text indicating that Mrs. Lot 'longs for a sinful life of garlic and leeks' - that presumption makes absolutely no sense to explain her actions unless we assume she is the stupidest person who ever lived and can't remember what happened 30 seconds prior.
There are really big logical holes in the standard explanation of this account.
i do not imagine her to be an idiot.
i presume that righteous Lot married an intelligent woman of good character.
a lot and his wife were warned about an impending fiery destruction they were told don’t look back to your possessions just go and flee
as they left she looked back to her old life that was being destroyed
“Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
and he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.”
Genesis 19:24-26
Christian’s have also been warned about an impending fiery end to come
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10
and not to draw back and look to the old ways like she did and perished
“and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. ( hypergrace doesn’t allow this to be true )
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. ( hypergracers doesn’t allow this they say “ that’s a works gospel )
For yet a little while, And he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: But if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.( like lord wife ) But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”
Hebrews 10:24-30, 36-39 KJV
It’s a warning also esau is used in another place for the same message the same warning that modern Christian’s really really don’t want to accept
The same warning with a different example
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.”
Hebrews 12:14-17 KJV
Like lots wife Christian’s are told of an end and we are well warned like her we can either heed Gods word like lot or disregard the e lords true warnings like she did the outcome was different for each
modern Christianity has tried to remove the truth from the gospel so those kinds of warnings don’t make sense if we think “ we’re already saved I don’t need to do anything Jesus said to do , I can never lose salvation “
Without the lords warnings we are blind that’s an example of what happens when we disregard the lords true words and warnings to believers
as they left she looked back to her old life that was being destroyed
“Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
and he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.”
Genesis 19:24-26
Christian’s have also been warned about an impending fiery end to come
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10
and not to draw back and look to the old ways like she did and perished
“and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. ( hypergrace doesn’t allow this to be true )
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. ( hypergracers doesn’t allow this they say “ that’s a works gospel )
For yet a little while, And he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: But if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.( like lord wife ) But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”
Hebrews 10:24-30, 36-39 KJV
It’s a warning also esau is used in another place for the same message the same warning that modern Christian’s really really don’t want to accept
The same warning with a different example
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.”
Hebrews 12:14-17 KJV
Like lots wife Christian’s are told of an end and we are well warned like her we can either heed Gods word like lot or disregard the e lords true warnings like she did the outcome was different for each
modern Christianity has tried to remove the truth from the gospel so those kinds of warnings don’t make sense if we think “ we’re already saved I don’t need to do anything Jesus said to do , I can never lose salvation “
Without the lords warnings we are blind that’s an example of what happens when we disregard the lords true words and warnings to believers
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Luke 14:25-35 reads, 25And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
30Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
34Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
We are told that Israel was given to us for an example. I would go as far to say all the individuals in the old testament are given to us for an example.
Lot's wife is a literal and physical example of salt being cast out because it is no good, is not fit. Why because she was not found worthy because as the verses prior point out she was not willing to forsake it all. Which family, father, mother, children, brother, and sister are specifically mentioned.
26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
30Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
34Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
We are told that Israel was given to us for an example. I would go as far to say all the individuals in the old testament are given to us for an example.
Lot's wife is a literal and physical example of salt being cast out because it is no good, is not fit. Why because she was not found worthy because as the verses prior point out she was not willing to forsake it all. Which family, father, mother, children, brother, and sister are specifically mentioned.
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my point here is that every accusation being brought against Lot's wife can be equally made against Lot, and in much of the case, really is nothing more than supposition about Mrs. Lot's motives with nothing in the account supporting it, but with Lot, ample evidence of him continuously resisting the warnings and direct commands of the angels.
so if we damn Mrs. Lot on this basis it is evident we should equally damn Lot or else we judge unevenly.
however 2 Peter 2 calls Lot explicitly an example of righteousness - so we should not contradict him.
If we acquiesce that despite Lot's resistence and unwillingness he is saved, we ought to judge equally Mrs. Lot if we dare to assign judgment at all.
The evidence we do have is that she was supernaturally saved from the destruction of the wicked city and that she was furthermore supernaturally prevented from returning.
on that basis alone what does she represent?
And specifically what does she represent to tribulation Jews?
...And here we go again. Always looking for a slick new angle.Let's get back to basics:
Man's heart is deceitfully wicked and he is bent on sinning.
God is good, merciful, gracious and kind.
Let's choose God and His Way, not man and the way of his adopted father, the Devil.
Lot's Wife... Remember What? | Cliffside Community Chapel (sermonaudio.com)
This man has your theory beat. By a longshot.
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