Prophecy & End Time Perspectives:

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

We know that John wrote Revelation after the temple’s destruction, yet he was still led to write about the Abomination of Desolation—just as Daniel had centuries earlier.

I'm not aware of where John writes about this.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I agree that there are many similarities. Let me ask you this—in the context of the Abomination of Desolation that both Daniel and Revelation speak about, do you see two distinct events prophetically?

1. The first being the destruction of the temple, when Pompey became the first Roman to enter the Holy of Holies.
2. The second being Crassus, who also entered and plundered the temple.

I don't believe that is the abomination that made desolate. I believe the crucifixion of Christ was. The temple really had no significance after the cross, or one could even argue after Christ appeared

 

[Blain]

I don't believe that is the abomination that made desolate. I believe the crucifixion of Christ was. The temple really had no significance after the cross, or one could even argue after Christ appeared

the abomanation that causrs desolation, do you know what desolation means? how could the crucifiction of Christ cause desolation?

 

[CS1]

I'm not aware of where John writes about this.

You quote it in Rev 20 or excuse me Rev 13:14-15

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

the abomanation that causrs desolation, do you know what desolation means? how could the crucifiction of Christ cause desolation?

It caused the utter destruction of Jerusalem and Judea

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

You quote it in Rev 20 or excuse me Rev 13:14-15

I wouldn't have even thought to connect the two.

 

[CS1]

I don't believe that is the abomination that made desolate. I believe the crucifixion of Christ was. The temple really had no significance after the cross, or one could even argue after Christ appeared

I disagree 1. Because Jesus is not the abomination that made desolate. He is the fulfillment of of the final sacrifice As Jesus said "it is finished" John 19:28-30

2. The temple holds significant importance because Jesus prophesied its destruction in Matthew 24.

 

[CS1]

I wouldn't have even thought to connect the two.

Well, both Daniel and Revelation speak on it. I think that is contextual, don't you?

 

[Blain]

It caused the utter destruction of Jerusalem and Judea

no it didn't that was the romans

 

[Kroogz]

I don't believe that is the abomination that made desolate. I believe the crucifixion of Christ was.

Wow. I mean WOW.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I disagree 1. Because Jesus is not the abomination that made desolate. He is the fulfillment of of the final sacrifice As Jesus said "it is finished" John 19:28-30

2. The temple holds significant importance because Jesus prophesied its destruction in Matthew 24.

Yes, but the act of crucifying the messiah was an abomination.

It was destroyed because it was insignificant/obsolete and no longer served God's purposes

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

no it didn't that was the romans

Why did the Romans destroy Jerusalem? Because God sent them in judgement against Jerusalem for their wickedness, the chief sin of which was their petitioning the Romans to crucify Christ

 

[CS1]

Yes, but the act of crucifying the messiah was an abomination.

It was destroyed because it was insignificant/obsolete and no longer served God's purposes

Not in the context of Defiling, then Temple Jesus did not defile the Temple. He opened the holy of holies for all to come; this is why the curtain was torn from top to Bottom. When did any sacrifice God has accepted become known as an abomination? Never.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Not in the context of Defiling, then Temple Jesus did not defile the Temple. He opened the holy of holies for all to come; this is why the curtain was torn from top to Bottom. When did any sacrifice God has accepted become known as an abomination? Never.

Jesus was not the abomination; he was the temple and wicked men defiled it by committing the abominable sin of murdering him.

 

[Kroogz]

Yes, but the act of crucifying the messiah was an abomination.

And you did it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

And you did it.

And the point is?

 

[Blain]

Why did the Romans destroy Jerusalem? Because God sent them in judgement against Jerusalem for their wickedness, the chief sin of which was their petitioning the Romans to crucify Christ

Except that it isn't what it says in scripture

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Except that it isn't what it says in scripture

Scripture was written before that happened. Seriously, do you think there has been a greater sin than murdering the son of God?

 

[Kroogz]

And the point is?

No point. Same as your point.
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I don't believe that is the abomination that made desolate. I believe the crucifixion of Christ was.

 

[CS1]

Jesus was not the abomination; he was the temple and wicked men defiled it by committing the abominable sin of murdering him.

No, the temple of the Lord was transferred from that made with Human hands to that in the human heart.