Prophecy & End Time Perspectives:

[lrs68]

I read an article this morning just after Trump announced the [ceasefire] that Iran blasted Israel with missiles.





U.S. President Donald J. Trump was on his way to the NATO military alliance summit in the Netherlands after saying he was “really unhappy” with Iran and Israel after at least four people were killed and over 20 injured in an Iranian missile strike in southern Israel.

He said he was unsure if these and other Iranian strikes in Israel were the results of already planned missions by Tehran before an Iran-Israel ceasefire was supposed to occur.

Trump spoke as rescue work was underway in the southern city of Beersheva, where authorities and witnesses said an apartment complex was hit, killing at least four and injuring more than 20.

Trump added that he “did not like” Israel’s counterstrike in Iran, apparently fearing it could undermine the truce.

He said both countries had violated the ceasefire agreement and that additional Israeli strikes in Iran would be a “serious violation” of the truce he had brokered.

In statements to the press on the White House lawn, he said that the two nations had lost sight of themselves. “We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and hard that they don’t know what the f*** they’re doing,” Trump added, using an expletive.

Trump told reporters that he was “really unhappy with Israel” and that he was “not happy with Iran.”

“I gotta get Israel to calm down now,” Trump stressed as he left the White House. “Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I’ve never seen before, the biggest load that we’ve seen.”

 

[Blain]

I read an article this morning just after Trump announced the [ceasefire] that Iran blasted Israel with missiles.

they are poking the bear with this one God has always been on Israels sidde and he won't stand by and let Israel be destroyed

 

[lrs68]

they are poking the bear with this one God has always been on Israels sidde and he won't stand by and let Israel be destroyed

I didn't think it was over but it could be and Iran just wanted the last punch.

 

[Blain]

I didn't think it was over but it could be and Iran just wanted the last punch.

maybe it is over or maybe it is going to continue it depends on how stupid iran is, with their nucluar capabilities destroyed they don't have the means to destroy Israel but if Russiah gets involved that cuold be a problem

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

maybe it is over or maybe it is going to continue it depends on how stupid iran is, with their nucluar capabilities destroyed they don't have the means to destroy Israel but if Russiah gets involved that cuold be a problem

If Iran had better aerial defense they could easily destroy Israel. They've been doing tremendous damage with their ballistic missiles and haven't even brought out their best stuff yet. The videos of massive missile strikes on Israel are just unbelievable

 

[Blain]

If Iran had better aerial defense they could easily destroy Israel. They've been doing tremendous damage with their ballistic missiles and haven't even brought out their best stuff yet. The videos of massive missile strikes on Israel are just unbelievable

I haven't seen the videos but I am sure they are horrendous to see, If worst comes to worst it could come to nucluer war and something tells me that iran is nowhere near done yet

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I haven't seen the videos but I am sure they are horrendous to see, If worst comes to worst it could come to nucluer war and something tells me that iran is nowhere near done yet

Israel has made it illegal to publish videos of missile attacks, so they are not popping up as frequently in the past week. If I come across some of the old ones I'll post them here for you to see.

 

[lrs68]

maybe it is over or maybe it is going to continue it depends on how stupid iran is, with their nucluar capabilities destroyed they don't have the means to destroy Israel but if Russiah gets involved that cuold be a problem

I guess Israel has now said it will retaliate because Iran broke the agreement. But what's interesting is Putin is talking about joining so Magog [Gog] could be entering into the picture.

A lot of possible dynamics going on and maybe developing.

Between Psalms 82 and Daniel and Ezekiel and other Prophets including Revelation we just might be witnessing everything we've read for years.

 

[Blain]

I guess Israel has now said it will retaliate because Iran broke the agreement. But what's interesting is Putin is talking about joining so Magog [Gog] could be entering into the picture.

A lot of possible dynamics going on and maybe developing.

Between Psalms 82 and Daniel and Ezekiel and other Prophets including Revelation we just might be witnessing everything we've read for years.

yes and with that the coming of our Lord as well.
I think God has been hinting to me that things are about to get serious in my dreams I don't get dreams from him very often but with the dream of the army of warships invadding the shores of somewhere and then a couple nights ago he gave me a dream where I was speaking to my dead grandpa saying to him I will see you soon I don't know maybe they are just dreams but they were different than my usual dreams I also had a dream the night before last night where I saw this massive earthsplitting earthquake and heard a voice saying when this happens God's children have one week to prepare.

possibly just dreams but three dreams like that back to back is not normal for me
is the rapture truly soon I wonder?

 

[CS1]

Zero evidence. Scripture clearly states that the Gog/Magog war happens 1000 years after Christ returns. False teacher Cyrus Scoffield popularized the idea that it happens before Christ returns.

Please provide the text that supports your position. Thank you

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Please provide the text that supports your position. Thank you

The only place in scripture besides Ezekiel in which Gog/Magog battle is mentioned

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea. Revelation 20:7-8​

 

[homwardbound]

With the attack on iran we are officially in the war and Trump is pushing for peace.
I am wondering also if this war that is going on is the war that is prophesied in Ezekiel or if it is just a shadow of what is to come.

like what evidence is there to believe it is that war?

Does it really matter? Can you or I change it? Can anyone? I know flesh and blood tries and is lost in the truth of our Souls getting, being saved by God.
In fear of death John 16:33

 

[Blain]

Does it really matter? Can you or I change it? Can anyone? I know flesh and blood tries and is lost in the truth of our Souls getting, being saved by God.
In fear of death John 16:33

yes it does matter because it means we are about to enter in the end times like never before literally seeing the book of revelation unfold before us

 

[CS1]

The only place in scripture besides Ezekiel in which Gog/Magog battle is mentioned

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea. Revelation 20:7-8​

Ezekiel 38: 15
38 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.


Is it possible that the war between God and Magog is another war after the Ezk 38 war? If Ezekiel 38 states that God will bury them, Ezek 38:11, and in Revelation 20, we see Gog and Magog not being buried by God but thrown into the lake of fire?

Rev 20:7

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Is it possible that the war between God and Magog is another war after the Ezk 38 war? If Ezekiel 38 states that God will bury them, Ezek 38:11, and in Revelation 20, we see Gog and Magog not being buried by God but thrown into the lake of fire?

Revelation says that the devil is cast into the lake of fire, not Gog/Magog. But it does say fire will rain down on Gog/Magog, which it also states in Ezekiel.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I don't see scripture supporting it happening before the lord's return. It says that people in the land will be dwelling safely, which isn't the situation now, nor can I see it happening before Christ's return. But that will be the case during the millennium.

After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. Ezekiel 38:8​

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Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Ezekiel 38:10-11​

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[Blain]

Revelation says that the devil is cast into the lake of fire, not Gog/Magog. But it does say fire will rain down on Gog/Magog, which it also states in Ezekiel.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I don't see scripture supporting it happening before the lord's return. It says that people in the land will be dwelling safely, which isn't the situation now, nor can I see it happening before Christ's return. But that will be the case during the millennium.

After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. Ezekiel 38:8​

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Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Ezekiel 38:10-11​

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I heard somewhere that the tribulation will have three and a half years of peace and then three and a half years of wrath I wonder if this holds wieght

 

[CS1]

Revelation says that the devil is cast into the lake of fire, not Gog/Magog. But it does say fire will rain down on Gog/Magog, which it also states in Ezekiel.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I don't see scripture supporting it happening before the lord's return. It says that people in the land will be dwelling safely, which isn't the situation now, nor can I see it happening before Christ's return. But that will be the case during the millennium.

After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. Ezekiel 38:8​

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Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Ezekiel 38:10-11​

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Okay, do you see the Battle known as Armageddon before the War of Gog and Magog? There is no way this war could be two wars with the same governments or nations that God and Israel have been battling over and over?

 

[CS1]

Does it really matter? Can you or I change it? Can anyone? I know flesh and blood tries and is lost in the truth of our Souls getting, being saved by God.
In fear of death John 16:33

Come on, His opinion is still to be heard

 

[CS1]

Revelation says that the devil is cast into the lake of fire, not Gog/Magog. But it does say fire will rain down on Gog/Magog, which it also states in Ezekiel.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I don't see scripture supporting it happening before the lord's return. It says that people in the land will be dwelling safely, which isn't the situation now, nor can I see it happening before Christ's return. But that will be the case during the millennium.

After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. Ezekiel 38:8​

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Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Ezekiel 38:10-11​

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I agree that there are many similarities. Let me ask you this—in the context of the Abomination of Desolation that both Daniel and Revelation speak about, do you see two distinct events prophetically?

1. The first being the destruction of the temple, when Pompey became the first Roman to enter the Holy of Holies.
2. The second being Crassus, who also entered and plundered the temple.

We know that John wrote Revelation after the temple’s destruction, yet he was still led to write about the Abomination of Desolation—just as Daniel had centuries earlier.


This seems to support the idea that these prophetic passages carry both a forthtelling and foretelling nature—a “now and later” fulfillment pattern. Would you agree?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Okay, do you see the Battle known as Armageddon before the War of Gog and Magog?

Yes. 1000 years before