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This isn't true.

First, the "mystery" he's talking about in 1 Corinthians 2:7 is the message of the cross. Second, he's talking about the message he himself preached to them. It doesn't say anything whatsoever about us needing to speak "mysteries." Third, it has nothing whatsoever to do with tongues.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
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you right now have no ability in your human form to do as Verse 7 claims [to speak the HIDDEN WISDOM]..
 

ResidentAlien

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Nit picking is what it is.
Call it office, ministries, titles, or vocations, what ever
No it's not nitpicking. I wouldn't concern myself at all with it if not for the NAR. Restoring the "offices" of apostle and prophet is their thing, not mine. You should look into the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and their agenda before you say I'm nitpicking.
 

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No it's not nitpicking. I wouldn't concern myself at all with it if not for the NAR. Restoring the "offices" of apostle and prophet is their thing, not mine. You should look into the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and their agenda before you say I'm nitpicking.
Other Christian organizations and churches use the word offices as well. I dont let those who are wrong set the terms of conversation.
 

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7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
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you right now have no ability in your human form to do as Verse 7 claims [to speak the HIDDEN WISDOM]..
Go back to 1 Corinthians 1:10 and read through 1 Corinthians 3:9. He's talking about himself and Apollos. He and Apollos are the "we" who spoke in mysteries. The mystery was the cross of Christ.

"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." vv. 7-8
 
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Go back to 1 Corinthians 1:10 and read through 1 Corinthians 3:9. He's talking about himself and Apollos. He and Apollos are the "we" who spoke in mysteries. The mystery was the cross of Christ.

"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." vv. 7-8
do you not know how to read the entire Verse.

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto [[((our glory))]]:

for OUR GLORY.!

how many times in the Bible do we read something for OUR GLORY?

it's God's Glory
the Father's Glory
the Son's Glory

very few, if merely one time do we read something for OUR GLORY.

you really are completely lost here.
stop using your preacher's notes because he's as blind as you are!
 

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do you not know how to read the entire Verse.

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto [[((our glory))]]:

for OUR GLORY.!

how many times in the Bible do we read something for OUR GLORY?

it's God's Glory
the Father's Glory
the Son's Glory

very few, if merely one time do we read something for OUR GLORY.

you really are completely lost here.
stop using your preacher's notes because he's as blind as you are!
LOL, yeah, someone's lost here alright.
 
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the Work on the Cross [[is not]] OUR GLORY, it is Jesus' Glory!

this Verse is about us, the followers of God, OUR GLORY!
 
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LOL, yeah, someone's lost here alright.
do you have a Calling on your life, an Anointing to be doing something other than sitting in front of a computer every day?

are you supposed to be doing something to help God's Kingdom to those WHO ARE LOST, not to those who are SAVED?

what is your calling?

this Verse is going to help you know what you have wasted your life on when you could have been doing what God called you to do BEFORE HE EVER SAID, LET THERE BE LIGHT!
 
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Jeremiah said He knew us in the Womb and ORDAINED us.

do you even know what you are ordained to do?
 

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do you have a Calling on your life, an Anointing to be doing something other than sitting in front of a computer every day?

are you supposed to be doing something to help God's Kingdom to those WHO ARE LOST, not to those who are SAVED?

what is your calling?

this Verse is going to help you know what you have wasted your life on when you could have been doing what God called you to do BEFORE HE EVER SAID, LET THEIR BE LIGHT!
LOL, okay. Do you want me to go away?
 

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and that is what i expected from someone who has no idea what Verse 7 is all about.

Thank You!
You want me to say you're right? Very well, you're right. Yo know way more than I do about interpreting the scriptures. I'm sorry I doubted you. How can I make it up to you? Would you like me to order you lunch and have it delivered?
 
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You want me to say you're right? Very well, you're right. Yo know way more than I do about interpreting the scriptures. I'm sorry I doubted you. How can I make it up to you? Would you like me to order you lunch and have it delivered?
i don't care about being right, Brother, i care about your anointing that was given to you before the Foundations of the Earth. I WANT YOU TO BE VICTORIOUS IN LIFE! I WANT YOU TO FULFILL WHAT GOD'S PLAN SPECIFICALLY WAS FOR YOU. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR GLORY!
 

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i don't care about being right, Brother, i care about your anointing that was given to you before the Foundations of the Earth. I WANT YOU TO BE VICTORIOUS IN LIFE! I WANT YOU TO FULFILL WHAT GOD'S PLAN SPECIFICALLY WAS FOR YOU. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR GLORY!
If I discover my anointing will I be able to speak in tongues?
 
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If I discover my anointing will I be able to speak in tongues?
Paul said you already can.

Paul said Speaking in Tongues speaks the mysteries of God. no one on their own ability can unlock the HIDDEN MYSTERIES that God ordained before creating the Earth on their own.

don't you want to know what the HIDDEN MYSTERY from God for YOU is? He created this [[((specifically))]] for YOU!
 

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Hey, I just did it! I opened my mouth and spoke in tongues. It sounded like nonsense, but I think it was tongues.
 
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the Bible says the spirit of man knows the mind of man BUT the Spirit of God knows the mind of God.

so us men can never know the Mystery of God until we allow the Holy Spirit to unlock it for us
 
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Hey, I just did it! I opened my mouth and spoke in tongues. It sounded like nonsense, but I think it was tongues.
The Holy Spirit gives utterance.
that means, the Holy Spirit does not Speak in Tongues, it only gives utterance.
you are the one who Speaks in Tongues.


i tell you what.

what problem are you facing that you know without a miracle cannot be fixed?
don't tell me or us here.
but tell God and then Speak in Tongues.
do it every day.

then tell me 30 days from now if that problem is not fixed or has become better.
what do you have to lose?

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this is Speaking the Hidden Mysteries of God through Tongues like Paul explains.
 

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. I WANT YOU TO BE VICTORIOUS IN LIFE! I WANT YOU TO FULFILL WHAT GOD'S PLAN SPECIFICALLY WAS FOR YOU. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR GLORY!
I would say that man getting glory is bad theology and rather arrogant. Rather, all glory goes to God.