One Eternal God in Three Persons- Look and SEE

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SteveEpperson

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Katia said:
Part of it is the "This is My Son, in whom I am well pleased" Matt 3:17. For me it is plain as day, and not worth quarrelling over. It is discouraging that people get so heated about it. Didn't people murder each other in the middle ages over it? No I am not going to toil over the proof on an issue of questionable value.
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Jesus Christ is God. There's NEVER anything you or anyone else can say that will change my mind. And no attempt at re-writing the bible will ever convince me either.

Let me reiterate. Jesus and God are the same.

Let me rehash. The Father, Jehovah, and Jesus are equal.

Let me be plain. God, the Father, and Jesus Christ are God, the same as the Holy Spirit is God.

Let me be clear. The Father, the Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are God.

One more time, in case you don't know where I stand. God the Father, God the Son, Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Spirit are one God.

Oh, by the way, Jesus IS GOD!

Praise be to go the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Hallelujah!
 
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DavidTree said:
One God in Three Persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - How can this be??? Man cannot fathom but we are told it is by the Word.
You said something very important:
"In the Old Testament Adam was made in the image of God.
In the New Testament Adam was made in the figure of Him to come who is Jesus.
The image of God is the image of Christ.
Which means God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He created Adam and Eve and created Adam in that image.
That means let us make man in our image has to include the man Christ Jesus for He is part of that image."

This is accurate and true - but it does not say Christ was created, rather it is Prophecy that when Christ comes in the flesh His Image is God. How else could Jesus say "If you have seen Me you have seen the Father"
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Jesus is God who has no beginning but Adam was created in the image of Christ who is God and the man Christ Jesus, so the man Christ Jesus has to be a part of that image.
 
DavidTree

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MattforJesus said:
The Bible does mention Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

But riddle me this for I would like to understand.

1. In the Old Testament Adam was made in the image of God.

In the New Testament Adam was made in the figure of Him to come who is Jesus.

The image of God is the image of Christ.

Which means God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He created Adam and Eve and created Adam in that image.

That means let us make man in our image has to include the man Christ Jesus for He is part of that image.

So is there a trinity or is the Let us make man in our image God and the man Christ Jesus.

2. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans in the book of Acts were all baptized in Jesus' name.

In the Old Testament God said He would reveal a new name to the Jews and speak to them.

Jesus said He came in the name of the Father.

Hebrews says the Son inherited the name from the Father.

John says the Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

So is there a trinity or is Jesus the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

3. Jesus told the disciples that when He resurrects to heaven to not ask Him anything but only ask the Father and He will do it.

But in another passage of scripture Jesus said when He resurrects to heaven to ask Him and He will do it.

Is there a trinity or is Jesus our Father.

4. The Bible says to the saints there is but one God, the Father, and in another place one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Why does the Bible only attribute the Father as being God.

Is there a trinity or is there only one God the Father.

I believe there is one God who is a Holy Spirit which is why the Spirit moved in creation, and Jesus was conceived by the Spirit, and the Spirit dwells in the saints.

And the Son is the man Christ Jesus, and Father is a title for God.
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Scripture declares all Three are God and are One - not Three separate gods but One God in Three Persons.

This is extremely important for it is the foundation of all Scriptural understanding.

God established who He IS in Genesis by Three men. He did this for us to be able to understand. Later in Exodus God confirms who He IS again by these Three men and firmly and FOREVER directly attaches His Name to these Three men.

Can you find these men and God's Name FOREVER - these are your clues
 
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MattforJesus said:
Jesus is God who has no beginning but Adam was created in the image of Christ who is God and the man Christ Jesus, so the man Christ Jesus has to be a part of that image.
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I think we are the new eve if we are the bride of Jesus.
 
SteveEpperson

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Katia said:
So, what would you do with the likes of me? Burn me at the stake with a nail in my tongue? Perhaps you'd rather tar and feather me? or perhaps you'd like to pull me member from member with horses? What is wrong with you? Can you not love another enough to allow them to have their own opinion? All those things I mention are in the historical record.
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I will not give you the pleasure of debate. I will not go down the rabbit hole you're trying to ensnare me in. If you're on this site trying to spread the lie that Jesus is not God, then you are worse than an atheist, in my opinion. And I will defend my God till my last breath, and if it means death, so be it. And I will defend my brothers and sisters from the evil that is the Watchtower Society and all the other clever names it takes on.
 
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rayzor said:
I think we are the new eve if we are the bride of Jesus.
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You said something here SUPER IMPORTANT but you do not realize it fully yet.
Here is your clue: Jesus said it to a two different women at two different times that is the essential- must have from God and the reason for His First Coming and His Second Coming.
 
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SteveEpperson said:
I will not give you the pleasure of debate. I will not go down the rabbit hole you're trying to ensnare me in. If you're on this site trying to spread the lie that Jesus is not God, then you are worse than an atheist, in my opinion. And I will defend my God till my last breath, and if it means death, so be it. And I will defend my brothers and sisters from the evil that is the Watchtower Society and all the other clever names it takes on.
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Brother, please simmer down, we welcome Katia here - i do not believe she is here to so discord - please allow for Grace.
 
DavidTree

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Katia said:
So, what would you do with the likes of me? Burn me at the stake with a nail in my tongue? Perhaps you'd rather tar and feather me? or perhaps you'd like to pull me member from member with horses? What is wrong with you? Can you not love another enough to allow them to have their own opinion? All those things I mention are in the historical record.
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Dear Katia, please allow for Grace and Mercy and Truth to prevail here - i apologize on the behalf of any that may offended.
We are here for discovery in the Word and not promoting any religion.
The Word is the Key to unlocking understanding for us in God - Amen.
 
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rayzor

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DavidTree said:
You said something here SUPER IMPORTANT but you do not realize it fully yet.
Here is your clue: Jesus said it to a two different women at two different times that is the essential- must have from God and the reason for His First Coming and His Second Coming.
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the lady at Jacobs will....the water that she never thirst again? The other maybe the one where her many sins where forgiven.
 
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Katia

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DavidTree said:
Dear Katia, please allow for Grace and Mercy and Truth to prevail here - i apologize on the behalf of any that may offended.
We are here for discovery in the Word and not promoting any religion.
The Word is the Key to unlocking understanding for us in God - Amen.
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I need to take a break. Thank you.
 
DavidTree

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rayzor said:
the lady at Jacobs will....the water that she never thirst again? The other maybe the one where her many sins where forgiven.
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OK you have one - but more detail is needed, what exactly is the "Water" and what is the Significance of it being at Jacob's well?
 
DavidTree

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rayzor said:
Not sure?
well that might be assumptive, we have John 6:53 but i guess your right.
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He spoke first to a woman about the Spirit filling us because the Church is always referred as 'She' - the Bride of Christ.
Secondly He said to her "the Gift" which is part of the Marriage Ceremony.
Thirdly it is at Jacob's well = God name is Elohim Abraham Elohim Isaac Elohim Jacob - Exodus 3:14-15
Father, Son and Holy Spirit - Jacob is representative of the Holy Spirit in Genesis.
 
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rayzor

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DavidTree said:
He spoke first to a woman about the Spirit filling us because the Church is always referred as 'She' - the Bride of Christ.
Secondly He said to her "the Gift" which is part of the Marriage Ceremony.
Thirdly it is at Jacob's well = God name is Elohim Abraham Elohim Isaac Elohim Jacob - Exodus 3:14-15
Father, Son and Holy Spirit - Jacob is representative of the Holy Spirit in Genesis.
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well let me see god is father of nations god is father of laughter and gods pride the last is usually said to mean the replacement = Jacob
 
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