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"If you remain in me, I will remain in you"...Let God be true...
...We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
... My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man’s anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:19-22 Listening and Doing
...Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18 Two Kinds of Wisdom
...We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
... My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man’s anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:19-22 Listening and Doing
...Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18 Two Kinds of Wisdom
Have you NO fear of the Lord!? You just altered the Word of God to try and fit your wicked works doctrine in continuing to trample on the Blood of Christ. Here are a couple dozen translations of the passage you just changed. NONE of them say what you said:
New International Version
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
New Living Translation
But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!
English Standard Version
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
Berean Study Bible
If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
Berean Literal Bible
If you abide in Me and My words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you wish, and to you it will come to pass.
New American Standard Bible
"If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
King James Bible
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Christian Standard Bible
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.
Contemporary English Version
Stay joined to me and let my teachings become part of you. Then you can pray for whatever you want, and your prayer will be answered.
Good News Translation
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, then you will ask for anything you wish, and you shall have it.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.
International Standard Version
"If you abide in me and my words abide in you, you can ask for anything you want, and you'll receive it.
NET Bible
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want, and it will be done for you.
New Heart English Bible
If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“But if you are abiding in me and my words will abide in you, everything whatsoever you desire to ask, it shall be done for you.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation
If you live in me and what I say lives in you, then ask for anything you want, and it will be yours.
New American Standard 1977
“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it shall be done for you.
Jubilee Bible 2000
If ye abide in me and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
King James 2000 Bible
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done unto you.
American King James Version
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done to you.
American Standard Version
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Douay-Rheims Bible
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you will, and it shall be done unto you.
Darby Bible Translation
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will and it shall come to pass to you.
English Revised Version
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Webster's Bible Translation
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye may ask what ye will, and it shall be done to you.
Weymouth New Testament
"If you continue in me and my sayings continue in you, ask what you will and it shall be done for you.
World English Bible
If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
Young's Literal Translation
if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.
New International Version
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
New Living Translation
But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!
English Standard Version
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
Berean Study Bible
If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
Berean Literal Bible
If you abide in Me and My words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you wish, and to you it will come to pass.
New American Standard Bible
"If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
King James Bible
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Christian Standard Bible
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.
Contemporary English Version
Stay joined to me and let my teachings become part of you. Then you can pray for whatever you want, and your prayer will be answered.
Good News Translation
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, then you will ask for anything you wish, and you shall have it.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.
International Standard Version
"If you abide in me and my words abide in you, you can ask for anything you want, and you'll receive it.
NET Bible
If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want, and it will be done for you.
New Heart English Bible
If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“But if you are abiding in me and my words will abide in you, everything whatsoever you desire to ask, it shall be done for you.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation
If you live in me and what I say lives in you, then ask for anything you want, and it will be yours.
New American Standard 1977
“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it shall be done for you.
Jubilee Bible 2000
If ye abide in me and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
King James 2000 Bible
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done unto you.
American King James Version
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done to you.
American Standard Version
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Douay-Rheims Bible
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you will, and it shall be done unto you.
Darby Bible Translation
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will and it shall come to pass to you.
English Revised Version
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Webster's Bible Translation
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye may ask what ye will, and it shall be done to you.
Weymouth New Testament
"If you continue in me and my sayings continue in you, ask what you will and it shall be done for you.
World English Bible
If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you.
Young's Literal Translation
if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.
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I am going through a dark trial at the moment with my son...
I can reach out to many for a comforting word , which I must add is wonderful , yet this dark period in my life lets me know that no one can get me through this , only Jesus...
I could post so many of His beautiful words that remind me of who I am in Christ , and knowing that I can cry ABBA Father and He hears my cries...
When it seems like the lights have gone out , it is just the clouds , God is still with me ...
Through this tribulation , His words have never spoke as loud as they do...
He is beautiful , Faithful and all the things He says He is , thank God He is keeping me , thank You God that your words are written on my heart , and You O God are calling them to my mind...
Those who say you can lose Salvation , I truly believe it`s because you have not fully put your trust in Christ...xox...
I can reach out to many for a comforting word , which I must add is wonderful , yet this dark period in my life lets me know that no one can get me through this , only Jesus...
I could post so many of His beautiful words that remind me of who I am in Christ , and knowing that I can cry ABBA Father and He hears my cries...
When it seems like the lights have gone out , it is just the clouds , God is still with me ...
Through this tribulation , His words have never spoke as loud as they do...
He is beautiful , Faithful and all the things He says He is , thank God He is keeping me , thank You God that your words are written on my heart , and You O God are calling them to my mind...
Those who say you can lose Salvation , I truly believe it`s because you have not fully put your trust in Christ...xox...
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Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
John 15:4
The above verse is a straight quote from scripture, the gospel of John.
"Have you NO fear of the Lord!? You just altered the Word of God to try and fit your wicked works doctrine in continuing to trample on the Blood of Christ."
Now missquoting the wrong verse and then claiming someone amended scripture is
a delusion, looking for something that is not there and then creating it as if this makes
sense rather than just shows too much feeling and not enough sense.
"wicked works doctrine" about believing in Christ for salvation and following Him as
the fulfilment of this salvation is not wicked but the gospel God has called us to.
Of what value is such atagonism when it is miss-placed? How will it help anyone?
John 15:4
The above verse is a straight quote from scripture, the gospel of John.
"Have you NO fear of the Lord!? You just altered the Word of God to try and fit your wicked works doctrine in continuing to trample on the Blood of Christ."
Now missquoting the wrong verse and then claiming someone amended scripture is
a delusion, looking for something that is not there and then creating it as if this makes
sense rather than just shows too much feeling and not enough sense.
"wicked works doctrine" about believing in Christ for salvation and following Him as
the fulfilment of this salvation is not wicked but the gospel God has called us to.
Of what value is such atagonism when it is miss-placed? How will it help anyone?
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Deceptive you say...
...I AM TALKING TO YOU GENTILES. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, DO NOT BOAST over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. DO NOT BE ARROGANT, but BE AFRAID. For if God did not spare the natural branches, HE WILL NOT SPARE YOU EITHER. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, PROVIDED that you CONTINUE in his kindness. Otherwise, YOU ALSO WILL BE CUT OFF.
Who then is the DECEIVER?
...Many DECEIVERS, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the DECEIVER and the ANTICHRIST. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. ANYONE WHO RUNS AHEAD and DOES NOT CONTINUE IN THE TEACHING OF CHRIST does not have God; whoever continues in the TEACHING has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this TEACHING, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his WICKED WORK. 2 John 1:7-11
Do you teach OBEDIENCE to His commands?
...Whoever has my commands and OBEYS THEM, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.” Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he WILL OBEY MY TEACHING. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. He who does not love me WILL NOT OBEY MY TEACHING. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 14:21,23-24
...And this is love: that we WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 2 John 1:6
...and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:20
...For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
Do you really believe that those WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY would remain in Jesus and that Jesus will remain in them...those who say that even if you lie to the HOLY SPIRIT, if you are ONCE SAVED, you are ALWAYS SAVED?
... WAKE UP! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. REMEMBER, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, AND REPENT, . But IF YOU DO NOT WAKE UP, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:2-3
...I AM TALKING TO YOU GENTILES. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, DO NOT BOAST over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. DO NOT BE ARROGANT, but BE AFRAID. For if God did not spare the natural branches, HE WILL NOT SPARE YOU EITHER. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, PROVIDED that you CONTINUE in his kindness. Otherwise, YOU ALSO WILL BE CUT OFF.
Who then is the DECEIVER?
...Many DECEIVERS, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the DECEIVER and the ANTICHRIST. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. ANYONE WHO RUNS AHEAD and DOES NOT CONTINUE IN THE TEACHING OF CHRIST does not have God; whoever continues in the TEACHING has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this TEACHING, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his WICKED WORK. 2 John 1:7-11
Do you teach OBEDIENCE to His commands?
...Whoever has my commands and OBEYS THEM, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.” Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he WILL OBEY MY TEACHING. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. He who does not love me WILL NOT OBEY MY TEACHING. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 14:21,23-24
...And this is love: that we WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 2 John 1:6
...and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:20
...For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
Do you really believe that those WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY would remain in Jesus and that Jesus will remain in them...those who say that even if you lie to the HOLY SPIRIT, if you are ONCE SAVED, you are ALWAYS SAVED?
... WAKE UP! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. REMEMBER, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, AND REPENT, . But IF YOU DO NOT WAKE UP, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:2-3
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Argueless, consider very carefully what I had put in my two posts, here:
https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-3891190
https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-3891191
...and also what is being said (about Israel) in Romans 11:28 and its context (vv.25-29,15)
@CCHERETICSWANTRIDOFCHRIST, what's with the angry smiley on this post? I mean, seriously?
*No cats were harmed in the posting of this emoji*
*No cats were harmed in the posting of this emoji*
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...If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, THROWN INTO THE FIRE AND BURNED. John 15:6
...LET GOD BE TRUE...
If it is OK for you to lie to the Holy Spirit, it's no big deal for you to accuse, slander, insult, mock, name call and "change the grace of God into a LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY".
...But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” THESE ARE THE MEN WHO DIVIDE YOU, who follow mere natural instincts and "DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT". But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. KEEP YOURSELVES IN GOD'S LOVE as you WAIT for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ TO BRING YOU TO ETERNAL LIFE.
Jude 1:17-21
Notice the bolded above and what James is saying below...
...You see that his FAITH and his ACTIONS were WORKING TOGETHER, and his faith was made complete by what he did. As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. James 2:22,26
...You see that a person is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. James 2:24
...LET GOD BE TRUE...
If it is OK for you to lie to the Holy Spirit, it's no big deal for you to accuse, slander, insult, mock, name call and "change the grace of God into a LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY".
...But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” THESE ARE THE MEN WHO DIVIDE YOU, who follow mere natural instincts and "DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT". But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. KEEP YOURSELVES IN GOD'S LOVE as you WAIT for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ TO BRING YOU TO ETERNAL LIFE.
Jude 1:17-21
Notice the bolded above and what James is saying below...
...You see that his FAITH and his ACTIONS were WORKING TOGETHER, and his faith was made complete by what he did. As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. James 2:22,26
...You see that a person is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. James 2:24
...TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU...Matthew 28:18-20
Who are CLAIMING that they who BELIEVE in Christ and are SAVED, are the ones who truly OBEY?
Why do they attack those who OBEY Christ's command to teach OBEDIENCE to his commands instead of teaching OBEDIENCE to His commands as the verses CLEARLY state?
It's because they do not really BELIEVE Christ who spoke those words and their defiance proves it. They would rather BELIEVE and OBEY FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES....for they loved praise from men more than praise from God. John 12:42-43
The itsy TWISTY spider...
...For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. THEY ARE GODLESS MEN, WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF OF OUR GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and DENY Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
...They claim to know God, but by THEIR ACTIONS they DENY Him. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT for doing anything good. Titus 1:16
Look who's talking about HONESTY.
...We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
Do you not CALL EVIL GOOD and GOOD EVIL? (Isaiah 5:20-24)
Is it RIGHT to OBEY God? Is it GOOD or is it WRONG and EVIL? If it is RIGHT and GOOD, why do you call those who promote OBEDIENCE TO GOD as FALSE or peddlers of a FALSE GOSPEL?
Do you not insult and call the views of those who promote OBEDIENCE to God as IDIOTIC?
It's funny how your group can say that only genuine believers would OBEY God and those who promote OBEDIENCE to God are LOST, UNBELIEVERS, FALSE, DECEIVER, NOT SAVED TO BEGIN WITH and many other discriminating NEGATIVE remarks.
And when you are called out, you will accuse them of SLANDER and start bullying those who disagree with you to the point of getting them banned to SUPPRESS THE TRUTH which no NOSAS ever did.
But scriptures fortold of these kind of people and behaviour.
.. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. Jude 1:14-19
...If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 1 Timothy 6:3-5
...Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. HE WHO DOES WHAT IS RIGHT IS RIGHTEOUS, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
IS IT RIGHT TO OBEY GOD or not?
Are you an instrument of God's righteousness or do you just BELIEVE and let God do everything for you?
Who now is the LORD, you?...and who is your servant, GOD?
....“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘IT IS FUTILE TO SERVE GOD. What did we gain by CARRYING OUT HIS REQUIREMENTS and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then THOSE WHO FEARED THE LORD talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I WILL SPARE THEM, just as in compassion a man spares HIS SON WHO SERVES HIM. And you will again see the DISTINCTION between the RIGHTEOUS and the WICKED, between those who SERVE GOD and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18
...God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him WE MIGHT BECOME THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. 2 Corinthians 5:21[
...I have written you quite boldly on some points, as if to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in LEADING THE GENTILES TO OBEY GOD BY WHAT I HAVE SAID AND DONE— Romans 15:15-18
Who are CLAIMING that they who BELIEVE in Christ and are SAVED, are the ones who truly OBEY?
Why do they attack those who OBEY Christ's command to teach OBEDIENCE to his commands instead of teaching OBEDIENCE to His commands as the verses CLEARLY state?
It's because they do not really BELIEVE Christ who spoke those words and their defiance proves it. They would rather BELIEVE and OBEY FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES....for they loved praise from men more than praise from God. John 12:42-43
The itsy TWISTY spider...
...For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. THEY ARE GODLESS MEN, WHO CHANGE THE GRACE OF OF OUR GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and DENY Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
...They claim to know God, but by THEIR ACTIONS they DENY Him. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT for doing anything good. Titus 1:16
Look who's talking about HONESTY.
...We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
Do you not CALL EVIL GOOD and GOOD EVIL? (Isaiah 5:20-24)
Is it RIGHT to OBEY God? Is it GOOD or is it WRONG and EVIL? If it is RIGHT and GOOD, why do you call those who promote OBEDIENCE TO GOD as FALSE or peddlers of a FALSE GOSPEL?
Do you not insult and call the views of those who promote OBEDIENCE to God as IDIOTIC?
It's funny how your group can say that only genuine believers would OBEY God and those who promote OBEDIENCE to God are LOST, UNBELIEVERS, FALSE, DECEIVER, NOT SAVED TO BEGIN WITH and many other discriminating NEGATIVE remarks.
And when you are called out, you will accuse them of SLANDER and start bullying those who disagree with you to the point of getting them banned to SUPPRESS THE TRUTH which no NOSAS ever did.
But scriptures fortold of these kind of people and behaviour.
.. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. Jude 1:14-19
...If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 1 Timothy 6:3-5
...Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. HE WHO DOES WHAT IS RIGHT IS RIGHTEOUS, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
IS IT RIGHT TO OBEY GOD or not?
Are you an instrument of God's righteousness or do you just BELIEVE and let God do everything for you?
Who now is the LORD, you?...and who is your servant, GOD?
....“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘IT IS FUTILE TO SERVE GOD. What did we gain by CARRYING OUT HIS REQUIREMENTS and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then THOSE WHO FEARED THE LORD talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I WILL SPARE THEM, just as in compassion a man spares HIS SON WHO SERVES HIM. And you will again see the DISTINCTION between the RIGHTEOUS and the WICKED, between those who SERVE GOD and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18
...God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him WE MIGHT BECOME THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. 2 Corinthians 5:21[
...I have written you quite boldly on some points, as if to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in LEADING THE GENTILES TO OBEY GOD BY WHAT I HAVE SAID AND DONE— Romans 15:15-18
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