Originally Posted by PeterJens
I do find this line dc is taking is ironic.
He is the one who takes offence, like EG, and says how insulting etc. others are
and how this or that is saying Christ is lying.
I encountered from this group was this continual abuse, as if they could actually
describe the offence, but unfortunately not normally.
But lets break it down simply. Here we are believers, sinning everyday, which we
cannot stop doing, yet Christ loves and accepts us.
To me this is simply sinners rebelling and saying God does not care about purity,
holiness and walking in the Spirit. Just read the lists of those doomed to hell,
and you understand they are the sinners. and the repentant faithful, followers of
Christ going to heaven.
I simply cannot understand and comprehend how anyone can come to these conclusions,
because you have to ignore so much of who the Lord is.
But if making the Lord fit ones own failures, then it is easy to do.
I do find this line dc is taking is ironic.
He is the one who takes offence, like EG, and says how insulting etc. others are
and how this or that is saying Christ is lying.
I encountered from this group was this continual abuse, as if they could actually
describe the offence, but unfortunately not normally.
But lets break it down simply. Here we are believers, sinning everyday, which we
cannot stop doing, yet Christ loves and accepts us.
To me this is simply sinners rebelling and saying God does not care about purity,
holiness and walking in the Spirit. Just read the lists of those doomed to hell,
and you understand they are the sinners. and the repentant faithful, followers of
Christ going to heaven.
I simply cannot understand and comprehend how anyone can come to these conclusions,
because you have to ignore so much of who the Lord is.
But if making the Lord fit ones own failures, then it is easy to do.
He makes us fit his forgiveness. Not the other way around, upside down (the brood of vipers)
He is the Potter who forms Christ in the clay. Some for vessels of honor others back into the field of clay.
Christians are not given a license to sin but are given a way to be forgiveness or pardoned from an eternal debt.. We serve Him who is not served by human hands because with him there is forgiveness from all the sins a person will perform in their entire life time. Without him no sin will be forgiven .One sins brings eternal separation ...never to rid see to new spirit life.
You could say get out of the judgement due as that which he freely gives to us with no cost on our behalf. . Rather than judging the law of grace and getting under it authority to redeem, some use the letter of the law in respect to a law of the fathers by standing in judgement as if they could see into the heart of man . In the end of the matter the law of the father does despite to the Spirit of Grace making it without effect.