NIV TRUTH- Satan and NWO revealed

Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

History of the King James Version the first link is for those who wish to know the details about how the KJV came to be and who exactly were the "scholars" who discerned the words.

The second link is a chart of differences between the two.

Comparisons between The Majority (KJV) and Minority (NIV) Texts (comparison CHART)

Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

Reformedjason said:

oh, I've done A TON of research on this. Textus Receptus, Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus. That's where the buck stops for me.

Reformedjason · Mar 30, 2014

Deadtosin said:

Ok. Good luck to you.

Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

Reformedjason said:

The republican party has its flaws but stands for christians a lot better than the democratic party. QUOTE]

my personal belief is that "democratic party and republican party is good cop, bad cop." the illusion is that we have a choice. It never matters who comes into office, they never do what they say they are going to do, and has anybody noticed that Obama care is the exact same thing that Romneycare was planning to be?

Reformedjason · Mar 30, 2014

The majority text and the textus recptus are not the same. How about the nkjv it is a translation of the tr?

Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

Reformedjason said:

have you ever looked into the codex vaticanus and codex sinaiticus? there is no coincidence that only one copy of each manuscript exist.

Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

Reformedjason said:

okay the received text, built soley on the textus receptus (thousands of manuscripts) agrees with all of them, no matter how many we find.

and no I won't use the NKJV and below is ANOTHER chart of why
New King James Version Comparison Chart - New King James Version Changes and Omissions
want the faster version?

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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "Lord" 66 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "God" 51 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "heaven" 50 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "repent" 44 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "blood" 23 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "hell" 22 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "JEHOVAH" entirely[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "new testament" entirely[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "damnation" entirely[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV omits the word "devils" entirely[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV ignored the KJV Greek Textus Receptus over 1200 times[/TD]
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[TD="class: maintext"]NKJV replaced the KJV Hebrew (ben Chayyim) with the corrupt Stuttgart edition (ben Asher) Old Testament[/TD]
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Deadtosin · Mar 30, 2014

KJV on left in blue NIV in Red on right
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[TD]Acts 8:37, "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]I John 5:13, "...and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." [/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 11:26, "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Matthew 18:11, "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 15:28, "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Acts 23:9, "...let us not fight against God."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Romans 13:9, "...Thou shalt not bear false witness...."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Luke 17:36, "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Luke 4:8, "...Get thee behind me, Satan..."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]1 Timothy 6:5, "...from such withdraw thyself."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Matthew 17:21, "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Matthew 23:14, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 7:16, "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 9:44, "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 9:46, "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Luke 23:17, "(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast)"[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]John 5:4, "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Acts 15:34, "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Acts 24:7, "But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Acts 28:29, "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Romans 16:24, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Matthew 12:47, "Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Matthew 21:44, "And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder."[/TD]
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[TD="width: 250"]Mark 16:9-20 (all twelve verses), "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen."
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[TD="width: 250"]Removed in the footnotes[/TD]
[TD="width: 250"]There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text. Right under the line it says: [The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 edition)[/TD]
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and this is just scratching the surface. I used to love the NIV. Then I studied.

Reformedjason · Mar 30, 2014

I have grown tired of this conversation many times over. I say to you " God bless". I don't know why I let myself get sucked into this.

Angela53510 · Mar 30, 2014

I think you need to read the 2 books mentioned in this thread, and find out that sometimes the words are eliminated because they weren't there in the earliest manuscripts, which actually counts for a lot more than a bunch of messed up Byzantine manuscripts.

It's like I went into a classroom with 30 kids in grade 6. I wrote out the book of Philemon (or Jude) on the board because they were short, and the kids had to copy them in full. And in cursive writing, just because I am old school about that. However, I also went to a university, and had a classics or English major copy out the same passage, based on my handwriting. I put away the University student's copy, because it is basically perfect.

But to prove a point, I take the 30 copied manuscripts into 30 other classrooms and have them copy out the manuscripts. Now, my grade 6 class is smart, but there are a few with learning disabilities and tend to turn things around. A couple have ADD and ADHD, so they add or miss parts. Same with the second classroom.

Then I take the second classroom's 30 copies, along with the first classroom's 30 copies and give them to another 60 students. So now I have over 120 copies of Philemon at a grade 6 level. I could do it again a few times and end up with 240 or 480 copies of Philemon.

Then I get out the one copy by the university student and the 120 copies (or 480 etc) of Philemon and ask some scholars to evaluate which copy is closest to the original. Of course, he finds some trends, the more generations I passed it down to (that means moved them to the next level, not the generations of a genealogy!), and that mistakes have been copied and passed down.

Now the university student's copy may not be perfect either, but I'll bet it is a good bit closer to the original Philemon I copied on the board than that huge number of grade 6 students, bored with writing, not knowing grammar or spelling as well, plus multiplied mistakes.

The point being that when you are hand copying, the more times you make a mistake, the more times it is multiplied. The farther you are from the source, the more you increase the chances of multiple mistakes being passed on.

So majority is not necessarily better.

James White has so many examples of errors in the KJV, it is ridiculous how anyone could claim this is the inerrant Bible.

1. "For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body." James 3:2 KJV

"For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says,he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body." James 3:2 ESV

"We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check." James 3:2 NIV

King James states that Christians offend all people. Do Christians offend all people, or do they stumble in many ways?

2. "I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess." Luke 18:12 KJV
"I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’" Luke 18:12 ESV
"I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ Luke 18:12 NIV
So did the Pharisees tithe on his possessions or his increase? The term in Greek means "to procure for oneself, acquire, get." KJV has the poor man giving 10% on all he owns, and I would imagine quite a few times a year. That would be a quick way to be reduced to poverty.

3. "And the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, " 1 Chronicles 5:26a KJV
"So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, the spirit of Tiglath-pileser king of Assyria, and he took them into exile, " 1 Chronicles 5:26a ESV
"So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pulking of Assyria (that is, Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria), who took the Reubenites, the Gadites and the half-tribe of Manasseh into exile" 1 Chron. 5:26 a NIV

KJV has the king of Assyria AND the spirit of Tiglath-pileser, taking away the Israelites. But the King of Assyria is merely the title of Tigathpileser. So ESV and esp NIV are the better translations, to say nothing of an error in the King's name. Tilgathpilneser is KJV and Tiglath-Pileser in every other single Bible
(Check out your Assyrian kings dynasties, to say nothing of other references to this Assyrian king)

4. "Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword." Isa. 13:15 KJV
"Whoever is found will be thrust through,
and whoever is caught will fall by the sword." Isa. 13:15 ESV
"Whoever is captured will be thrust through;
all who are caught will fall by the sword." Isa. 13:15 NIV

Note that "that is joined", is totally different than captured. This is because the Hebrew words are very similar, with capture having a het at the end, and "join" a chet at the end. So another copy mistake passed down in the later manuscripts.

I could do many more mistakes but let us leave it at this, for those who are unconvinced.

TrustInJesus · Mar 30, 2014

Deadtosin said:

You're welcome. Thanks too for this video of opinion.

RedTent · Mar 31, 2014

I think these threads about bible translations are a waste of value time needed to learn about God.

Bible translators have a horrible job. God spoke first in the Hebrew language through the culture of men who lived and thought thousands of years ago. Think how the meaning of our words have changed! Gay, net, mouse, over the moon, piece of cake, train, and lots of other changes you wouldn't recognize like neck, girl, awful, and bead. This in only a few hundred years.

All translation, even the earliest, have at least a hundred years from the original. Think of what can happen to language understanding in a hundred years. There are people who say that a translation done 1,600!!! years after Christ is from God Himself and is absolutely accurate. One done over 400 years ago, in the language meanings of 400 years ago. Ridiculous!

These same people who want us to accept, completely, a translation done 1,600 years after Christ during a time of spiritual darkness, say that all of information of the scrolls found from the time of Christ and before should not be listened to! Or the work finding the meanings of the Hebrew words when language was pictographs.

People need to prayerfully look for what God wants us to know, and not to all these probes into finding something wrong in each translation. Instead, each God thought needs to be watched for truth, it takes many translations to find it.

Cobus · Mar 31, 2014

John 17:17.... Sanctify them in Your Truth, Your word is Truth..... You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free...
If I set you free you are free indeed.... Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit....

Just some TRUTH about God and His Word. Not all Bibles can be God's Word, they do not agree and do not teach the same. Not all teachers can be of God, they also do not teach the same. Some will be TRUTH preachers and they are ALL HOLY MEN OF GOD (2 Peter 1:21) and some will not be Truth teachers and they are men not HOLY MEN.

What is the difference between a man and a holy man..... JESUS CHRIST is the differenece.... A Holy man is holy because Jesus lives in him and a man is not holy becasue Jesus does not live in him... And Jesus is the WORD MADE FLESH....

Deadtosin, we cannot give the world the Word of God. The world CANNOT receive the Spirit of Truth. But the ones that do get the Word of God in FULNESS.... they ALL will be made to the FULNESS of Christ. The ones that KNOW the Truth, God's Word is Truth, will be made free.... And that free is from ALL evil, even false bibles and false teachers. (Eph 4:13)

I know you are one person that will know the Truth. I can see your spirit being MADE FREE, by the TRUTH... I do not have to fight for the KJV God's Word..... God said that His Word will outlive the World. And I believe Him. Thank God that HE WILL KEEP HIS WORD.... Amen!

TrustInJesus · Mar 31, 2014

Cobus said:

John 17:17.... Sanctify them in Your Truth, Your word is Truth..... You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free...
If I set you free you are free indeed.... Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit....

Just some TRUTH about God and His Word. Not all Bibles can be God's Word, they do not agree and do not teach the same. Not all teachers can be of God, they also do not teach the same. Some will be TRUTH preachers and they are ALL HOLY MEN OF GOD (2 Peter 1:21) and some will not be Truth teachers and they are men not HOLY MEN.

What is the difference between a man and a holy man..... JESUS CHRIST is the differenece.... A Holy man is holy because Jesus lives in him and a man is not holy becasue Jesus does not live in him... And Jesus is the WORD MADE FLESH....

Deadtosin, we cannot give the world the Word of God. The world CANNOT receive the Spirit of Truth. But the ones that do get the Word of God in FULNESS.... they ALL will be made to the FULNESS of Christ. The ones that KNOW the Truth, God's Word is Truth, will be made free.... And that free is from ALL evil, even false bibles and false teachers. (Eph 4:13)

I know you are one person that will know the Truth. I can see your spirit being MADE FREE, by the TRUTH... I do not have to fight for the KJV God's Word..... God said that His Word will outlive the World. And I believe Him. Thank God that HE WILL KEEP HIS WORD.... Amen!

Revelation 19:13 NASB - "He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God."

JGIG · Mar 31, 2014

posthuman said:

Deadtosin said:

Actually, that was Hebrew.

JGIG · Mar 31, 2014

phil112 said:

I agree; God has been faithful to make His Word available in many tongues, with more translation going on all over the world by dedicated linguists committed to sharing the Gospel with every Tribe and Tongue.

Here's a real-life-over-40-years observation:

I was saved at age 8.

Was given a Living Bible.

Went to a Christian School that was KJVO and memorized gobs of Scripture from the KJV.

Grew up in a church that used the NIV, and that was my preferred 'reading Bible', from which I also did a good amount of memorizing, and when I had enough money from my own job to buy a nice Bible, I chose the NIV (the same, well-worn one I use today, along with my KJV from school).

I am conflict-free regarding the doctrines of Christianity after growing up reading both versions extensively; I believe, from the reading I've done in both the NIV and KJV that Jesus is God, and have noted no contradictions of doctrinal significance in reading the two. I love the beauty of the King James English and the clarity of the NIV. I dislike the 2011 NIV and prefer the 1977/1984 version.

If I have a question about what a passage is saying (and when online, I usually have parallels consisting of the NIV, KJV, and ESV - a version I've come to appreciate, as well - in front of me), I go to the Hebrew or Greek (whichever applies) for more insight.

In a nutshell, Bible translations break down into word-for-word translations or thought-for-thought ('equivalent dynamic') translations. And then there are paraphrases. Doctrine should be gleaned from more literal translations rather than paraphrases, as paraphrases are not as true to the original languages as translations are.

Both word-for-word and thought-for-thought translations have their strengths and weaknesses, and as such I personally refer to several translations when reading and researching. Context is always key: Consider the immediate passage, chapter, book/letter, Old or New Covenant.

(Pericope is like a passage; a group of verses.)

Paul's letter to the Romans is best read as a complete unit. Chapters 1 and 2, for instance, should never be read without also reading chapters 3, 4, and 5. And chapters 5, 6, and 7 should never be read without also reading chapter 8. And . . . well you get the idea.

A good rule of thumb is to reject the works of single men (not as in unmarried, but as in those who are not a part of a linguistic team with actual linguistic education, credentials, and with peer accountability), which would include Mormon works, the JW bible, and the Hebrew Roots versions that are out there, including the AENT.

I understand the KJVO stance, but disagree with it. There are tons of sites/videos out there to research the KJV only point of view - I've looked into it and have found their bias to be unreasonable, partly based on the facts I've researched about original texts (A video I found helpful in condensing the typical arguments into debate form can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTfiuksOwl4).

Just my two cents. Don't find it necessary to argue about world conspiracies and such. Most of my early Christian education and through the High School years was from the KJV. Using the NIV alongside caused no crises of faith at any point for me at all, and I continue to refer to different versions along with the Greek and Hebrew on a regular basis.

Grace and peace,
-JGIG

Cobus · Mar 31, 2014

Ok, here is the thing... The Bible should be Gods Word, and it should be manifested in flesh as it was in Jesus. The Bible does say that Jesus was the Word that was made flesh. John 1:14. Now here is the thing I know about God's Word. God says that His NAME is the Word of God. Rev 19:13. Thank you TrustinJesus for this verse.

Now if we LOOK at what God says about the Word of God and HIS NAME and Jesus, then we come to the knowledge that if God does make HIS WORD ALIVE in a person, then that person is in the WORD. And the WORD is in that person. God says the WORD OF GOD GREW AND MULTILIED... Acts 12:24... That menas GOD HIMSELF MULTIPLIED. God GREW!

Look at this... In the beginning was the WORD and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... And the WORD GREW AND MULTIPLIED... WOW! So the TRUTH became more and more.... That only means one thing, MORE PEOPLE WERE MADE LIVING WORD.... Now THAT is the WORD of God. THAT is the NAME of GOD. THAT IS GOD.....

Remember the GREAT comission... Go and BAPTIZE in the NAME ... Look ONE NAME... Of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.... THE ONE NAME OF GOD... what is that? WATER? NEVER... God says.... His name is THE WORD OF GOD....So baptize people in WHAT? THE NAME OF GOD: The WORD OF GOD...

Here let me baptize you ALL today....Look what God did with 5000 men in a split second... Now tell me this is not the BIGGEST BAPTISM EVER....And let me share with you this NAME OF GOD/WORD OF GOD/BAPTISM OF GOD/MULTIPYING AND GROWING OF WORD OF GOD....

Acts 4... (remember 5000 men were gathered here) .... And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul:

I have to say... Imagine 5000 men with ONE HEART AND ONE SOUL AND ONE SPIRIT.... PERFECTLY ONE? Are they not then PERFECTLY ONE? Like Jesus asked in John 17... Father make them PERFECTLY ONE.... WOW!!!!

How is ANY of two people on CC going to be mae perfectly one? If God does not give us HIS WORD, we CANNOT be perfectly one. I have hope for me and DEADTOSIN, we come a long way and it does not seem that we differ on any point. Maybe God is busy with both of us. There is also Ramon that left CC and I remember how we were VERY ONE. I have hope. I truly have hope. For the Word of God is my light and my meaure of Truth. I believe the Word of Godand God said ALL who He saves are made ONE!

May God finish in me what He started then I will BE ONE OF THE GROW AND MULTIPLY... Praise Jesus for HE still sanctify in Truth... Amen!

ChosenbyHim · Mar 31, 2014

Here is a good book that shows and documents the utter corruption of the Vaticanus and Siniaticus manuscripts which the modern versions are based on:

by Dean John William Burgon*·Dean Burgon Society, Incorporated*·*Hardback*·644 pages*·*ISBN 1888328010

The importance of this book cannot be underestimated. There is no one book that exposes Westcott and Hort's false Greek Text and false Greek theory behind that text any more thoroughly and convincingly than The Revision Revised. Dean Burgon defends the traditional text of the New Testament. He shows clearly the defects in both manuscript "B" (Vaticanus) and manuscript "Aleph" (Sinaiticus). It is very important to see the arguments contained in this historic volume because virtually the same Greek text of Westcott and Hort (1881) FORMS THE BASIS OF ALMOST ALL OF THE MODERN VERSIONS AND PERVERSIONS. See the Appendix, pages 2-3.

PennEd · Mar 31, 2014

I'd like to think I'm an open minded individual. So I watched a little more of the video, and though not thoroughly convinced that these newer translations are of the devil, there are several verses that are a little disturbing. I don't want to get crazy with this stuff, but it might demand further investigation.

Jackson123 · Mar 31, 2014

Translate can be to make people from other language understand. But this video tray to demonstrate translate in purpose to mislead. They do it systematically and disguised so the reader doesn't fell being cheat.

They act look like to help now day reader understand better with new English/modern English translation. But the real purpose is to mislead the reader to bring them slowly but surely to his agenda/Antichrist agenda sponsor by Lucifer use Vatican as his agent.

I convince that the translation is in purpose to cheat. to attack and weaken the deity of Jesus. To prevent people know the truth. Why?

Because they burn an kill the honest translator.

It is the fruit of Satan to Kill the honest. And corruption in the history of Catholic also prof that they are in purpose to alter Bible in disguised. Try to modify bible.

Why they don't make his own bible?

I believe it is more effective to use the" origin bible"to convince christian that what he is teaching is from the Lord and people accepted without knowing that they edit here and there to promote his own agenda.

Yes hundreds years language understand is different than now language. If that the reason to make new translation I will accept it.

But this video demonstrate it's not the case.

They are make new translation not to help the reader understand better, but in purpose to mislead the reader.

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