Loss of salvation???

[Musicmaster]

Does that prove you really do not want to understand beyond your over simplistic restrictive method?

You do seem to enjoy attempting zingers in your comments, akin to one-upmanship.

Actually, Systematic Theology is not at all simplistic nor reactive.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

Love ya Brother.

I SEE you as Justified because of your doctrine and fruits. God sees you as Justified because you trust The Lord Jesus Christ for your salvation.

If I don't See you as Justified, God does.

Ok. Was just trying to wrap my mind around what you were saying in relation to what's written. I'm glad you clarified.

Thanks

MM

 

[Genez]

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

MM

Nobody needs to teach you what to believe concerning what you have learned from a God-appointed teacher.

Ephesians 4:11-13

But, you go your own merry way...
Never learning what you can not teach yourself.
And, able to maintain a secure feeling you desire about what you believe, because no one can tell you different.

 

[Genez]

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

MM

Keep in mind. they needed a teacher to tell them that!
The teacher they were learning from!

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Agreed.

And this is what @Musicmaster is doing to scripture to advance the thinking that Jews were saved apart from His Grace before the Church age.

To my recollection the former Pope said something akin to that. Jews saved without believing in Jesus.

He also said that of atheists too.

 

[Genez]

Agreed.

And this is what @Musicmaster is doing to scripture to advance the thinking that Jews were saved apart from His Grace before the Church age.

Grace was always God's the modus operandi throughout the OT...
Just utilized differently with Jews, who did not become a new creation in Christ.

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD." ​

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Genesis 6:8​

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Then Moses said to the Lord, “See, You say to me, ‘Bring up this people.’ ​

But You have not let me know whom You will send with me. ​

Yet You have said, ‘I know you by name, and you have also found ​

grace in My sight." Exodus 33:12​

grace and peace .............

 

[Musicmaster]

Nobody needs to teach you what to believe concerning what you have learned from a God-appointed teacher.

Ephesians 4:11-13

But, you go your own merry way...
Never learning what you can not teach yourself.
And, able to maintain a secure feeling you desire about what you believe, because no one can tell you different.

Holy Spirit, the Anointing, He is the God-appointed Teacher of us all. All others:

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

The basis of comparison is staggeringly simple to understand, and positing otherwise is sheer folly.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

Keep in mind. they needed a teacher to tell them that!
The teacher they were learning from!

At least John believed it wholeheartedly

MM

 

[Genez]

Holy Spirit, the Anointing, He is the God-appointed Teacher of us all. All others:

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

The basis of comparison is staggeringly simple to understand, and positing otherwise is sheer folly.

MM

What I told you the Holy Spirit showed me....

 

[Genez]

At least John believed it wholeheartedly

MM

You're shadow boxing again....