John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ
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Are you really that thick? Or are you so married to your false belief that you simply cannot see what is plainly stated? You sound just like Slick Willy..... "well, it depends on what the definition of 'is' is...... " Good grief.
Plain speaking....
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Plain speaking....
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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Okay as you think, the same as Peter thought he would not ever deny Jesus, yet did
Peter learning as we all are to this day, each learning.
So, amn I to learn from Peter or God, which is it? At Pentecost who talked, Peter or God?
Are you saying Peter was always telling truth of God in what is reported he said?
Okay, thanks
I chose to get water Baptized as a testimony in good conscience to God and the announcement I believe Gd over man's massive interference
Ley who be who and what be what. be raised new, wise as a servant and remain harmless as a dove.
I see this to not live like a refugee ever since Son took care of all my needs in his forgiveness given by Son. to me personally. seeing the last next step after settling it within me God won by Son for us all to walk ne win. llvbe and mercy to all
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Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. ...
Psalm 100:4, 103:12 as done by Son as said so by Son in John 19:30
Peter learning as we all are to this day, each learning.
So, amn I to learn from Peter or God, which is it? At Pentecost who talked, Peter or God?
Are you saying Peter was always telling truth of God in what is reported he said?
Okay, thanks
I chose to get water Baptized as a testimony in good conscience to God and the announcement I believe Gd over man's massive interference
Ley who be who and what be what. be raised new, wise as a servant and remain harmless as a dove.
I see this to not live like a refugee ever since Son took care of all my needs in his forgiveness given by Son. to me personally. seeing the last next step after settling it within me God won by Son for us all to walk ne win. llvbe and mercy to all
Psalm
Psalm 1
Psalm 1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. ...
Psalm 100:4, 103:12 as done by Son as said so by Son in John 19:30
It is not my formula as you propose. The word of God is clear. People cannot enter the kingdom of God with the stain of sin and without the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost. The NT rebirth as presented first in Jerusalem deals with both. (Acts 2:38) As Jesus said, unless a man is born of water and Spirit he cannot SEE or ENTER.
We obey laws that we object to, we pay taxes that we do not believe in.
Many conscripted soldiers have fought and died for causes that they did not support.
We work at jobs that we hate and serve people we believe should not be served.
And we do things that we believe we should not.
Romans 7:15
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.
Many conscripted soldiers have fought and died for causes that they did not support.
We work at jobs that we hate and serve people we believe should not be served.
And we do things that we believe we should not.
Romans 7:15
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.
You believe it's better to obey laws than suffer the consequences. You believe it's better to pay taxes than go to jail. People who were conscripted thought war was preferable to prison. You believe it's better to work a job you don't like than not eat and pay bills.
What you believe dictates what you do.
What you believe dictates what you do.
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Thank you, then why did Peter say water Baptism is a good conscience towards God? it is not the washing away of sin as he thought it was. what I am saying is, on pentecost, no one was water Baptized until after God saved them miraculously through the preaching Peter did, which was in truth God speaking through him at on pentecost itself. Then was Peter God and never made anymore mistakes?
I do not disagree with water Baptism, just it is not for salvation, God's son as risen is: after his death took away all sin in his Father's sight first for us the people to get saved by the risen Son? Father given.
Also the house of Cornelius, Gentile house. Peter entered in the house illegally according to Jewish Law. God used Peter's vessel to speak to them. The Holy Ghost, God Father fell on them and were saved. Then water Baptism came after the fact off being saved, willingly they did it.
Then Peter announced this salvation without Jewish rituals to his comrades in the Gospel, the other disciples and they did not believe him I think that was in Acts 9,10
However reading the Bible as a whole and not picking out verses and making doctrines out of them using different verses to make my point in what I believe is messed up from me and L can only speak for me, please read the whole context of each Epistle and or Gospel, thanking god for me to see to do that now, and trust God to hear truth one error in context, thanks.
I see God took away all sin on the cross he went to willing in his shed blood as done once for us all. Then the resurrection for us to be raised also, by belief as one might see happened when people believed God, god entered them back willingly from them being willing.
We, me I see am Left with to believe God or not. Not to add any have to's,. could have;s, should have's or better or else talk foolish talk to me, Thanks
God did it complete by son, who claimed I tis finished then gave up his ghost and reconciled us all to himself for us to first be forgiven then risen with him in continued belief to see, no matter what troubles happen from that point forward. Son as Won for us the people to be saved by God, not anyone else, thanks. to me at least my love in mercy share to all.
Love you, I see to add no laws and put anyone else under stress here in this world. There is enough by itself.
I see one is either willing or has to or else. Religion has been teaching Has to or else for centuries, putting other people in charge over people and using God as why they do it, that they are chosen, when I see God has no respect of persons, we all are equals, no one better than another, as I see and can only speak for me.
Has God not chosen me, me and the entire world? to choose willingly as well as Son did that first willingly?
However I see I am just rattling on,
you believe as you choose, I hope you not living like a refugee, for in Father Son as alive for you to be in love with all without any law added or taken away rituals, should have, could have, better have or else stressful guilt or pride in I got it better than others, is not good for my soul
Thanks for your belief to be new, I do hope it is working for you under Law as I see tha you are under Law per your added Law of have to do's or else
I do not disagree with water Baptism, just it is not for salvation, God's son as risen is: after his death took away all sin in his Father's sight first for us the people to get saved by the risen Son? Father given.
Also the house of Cornelius, Gentile house. Peter entered in the house illegally according to Jewish Law. God used Peter's vessel to speak to them. The Holy Ghost, God Father fell on them and were saved. Then water Baptism came after the fact off being saved, willingly they did it.
Then Peter announced this salvation without Jewish rituals to his comrades in the Gospel, the other disciples and they did not believe him I think that was in Acts 9,10
However reading the Bible as a whole and not picking out verses and making doctrines out of them using different verses to make my point in what I believe is messed up from me and L can only speak for me, please read the whole context of each Epistle and or Gospel, thanking god for me to see to do that now, and trust God to hear truth one error in context, thanks.
I see God took away all sin on the cross he went to willing in his shed blood as done once for us all. Then the resurrection for us to be raised also, by belief as one might see happened when people believed God, god entered them back willingly from them being willing.
We, me I see am Left with to believe God or not. Not to add any have to's,. could have;s, should have's or better or else talk foolish talk to me, Thanks
God did it complete by son, who claimed I tis finished then gave up his ghost and reconciled us all to himself for us to first be forgiven then risen with him in continued belief to see, no matter what troubles happen from that point forward. Son as Won for us the people to be saved by God, not anyone else, thanks. to me at least my love in mercy share to all.
Love you, I see to add no laws and put anyone else under stress here in this world. There is enough by itself.
I see one is either willing or has to or else. Religion has been teaching Has to or else for centuries, putting other people in charge over people and using God as why they do it, that they are chosen, when I see God has no respect of persons, we all are equals, no one better than another, as I see and can only speak for me.
Has God not chosen me, me and the entire world? to choose willingly as well as Son did that first willingly?
However I see I am just rattling on,
you believe as you choose, I hope you not living like a refugee, for in Father Son as alive for you to be in love with all without any law added or taken away rituals, should have, could have, better have or else stressful guilt or pride in I got it better than others, is not good for my soul
Thanks for your belief to be new, I do hope it is working for you under Law as I see tha you are under Law per your added Law of have to do's or else
What you cite is arguably the process that an individual goes through when one is coming to salvation. Notice the end. Who shall deliver me?
If you believe this to always be true, we would always act sinfully. Our flesh would always win out. That simply isn't so. The Christian more and more does obey. Are they still being controlled by the flesh?
Why is this not reality?
At the same time, one may act sinfully believing it wrong but believing also they will be forgiven and that because their sins are forgiven, their transgression will have no eternal consequences. People can hold multiple beliefs concerning a subject and not simply one. Before an individual sins, what thoughts precede their actions?
If you believe this to always be true, we would always act sinfully. Our flesh would always win out. That simply isn't so. The Christian more and more does obey. Are they still being controlled by the flesh?
Why is this not reality?
At the same time, one may act sinfully believing it wrong but believing also they will be forgiven and that because their sins are forgiven, their transgression will have no eternal consequences. People can hold multiple beliefs concerning a subject and not simply one. Before an individual sins, what thoughts precede their actions?
because that's what it is. We are baptized for forgiveness for our sins, which gives us a clear conscience... he compared it to how Noah's family was "cleansed" from sinful mankind by the washing away of sin (sinners) in the waters of the flood. "baptism, which corresponds to this, (the flood) now saves us...." not because it's a ceremonial washing of dirt off our bodies.... it's an act of obedience to God, and an appeal for a clear conscience.
This, as has been discussed and explained MANY times, was a one-time event to show the Jewish Christians, who did not want to baptize the Gentiles (Cornelius family) because they thought it was only for Jews. God, through Peter showed the Jews that the Gentiles were, in fact, approved... by allowing the Spirit to manifest in them by speaking in tongues. Then the Jews relented, and allowed them to be baptized. It was NOT a decision by Cornelius after the fact. This was a watershed moment for the Jewish Christians, and Cornelius' Gentile family was the teaching mechanism.
All sin IS forgiven, for those that choose to follow Jesus, and obey God. it's not an automatic forgiveness for everyone, otherwise, God should just end the world now, since there is nothing left to accomplish. Silly...
This, as has been discussed and explained MANY times, was a one-time event to show the Jewish Christians, who did not want to baptize the Gentiles (Cornelius family) because they thought it was only for Jews. God, through Peter showed the Jews that the Gentiles were, in fact, approved... by allowing the Spirit to manifest in them by speaking in tongues. Then the Jews relented, and allowed them to be baptized. It was NOT a decision by Cornelius after the fact. This was a watershed moment for the Jewish Christians, and Cornelius' Gentile family was the teaching mechanism.
All sin IS forgiven, for those that choose to follow Jesus, and obey God. it's not an automatic forgiveness for everyone, otherwise, God should just end the world now, since there is nothing left to accomplish. Silly...
And yet, you always find a way to do so. Perhaps it's not as difficult as you stated.
If you do something you believe is sinful, didn't you believe it was a sinful act when you performed the act? You did believe it was sinful. You did it anyway, even though you believed it was sinful. Doing what you don't want to do doesn't change this.
Do you believe that sometimes a Christian will desire not to sin, but sin anyway? When you are struggling against a sin but give into your temptation, haven't you done what you believe is true of all Christians?
You seem to be conflating what you want with what you believe.
If you do something you believe is sinful, didn't you believe it was a sinful act when you performed the act? You did believe it was sinful. You did it anyway, even though you believed it was sinful. Doing what you don't want to do doesn't change this.
Do you believe that sometimes a Christian will desire not to sin, but sin anyway? When you are struggling against a sin but give into your temptation, haven't you done what you believe is true of all Christians?
You seem to be conflating what you want with what you believe.