I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.

[Magenta]

I do know. In the beginning God was the Word. And the Word became flesh and came to earth and dwelt among us. It does not say that the word is the same as God.

What a mangle job you do.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

Jesus did say they were though,,, https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/10-30.htm

Jesus said, I and the Father are one. Or, as your link says, I and the Father one are.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

What a mangle job you do.

Not sure but okay.

 

[Magenta]

Not sure but okay.

The WORD was God. What part of that do you not understand?

It does not say that the word is the same as God.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

The WORD was God. What part of that do you not understand?

I understand that. That is what the translations say. But the Greek says God was the Word.

 

[iamsoandso]

Jesus said, I and the Father are one. Or, as your link says, I and the Father one are.

no he used the Greek word heis https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm even the Jews understood that he had just stated that he and the father were the same person

 

[Magenta]

I understand that. That is what the translations say. But the Greek says God was the Word.

What's the difference? God was the Word, the Word was God? So what?
How does that translate into the WORD not being God in your mind?

The WORD which took on flesh to walk this world, the WORD known as Jesus.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

no he used the Greek word heis https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm even the Jews understood that he had just stated that he and the father were the same person

I don't see the word person here, or the idea either. That would have to be extrapolated if true.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

What's the difference? God was the Word, the Word was God? So what?
How does that translate into the WORD not being God in your mind?

The WORD which took on flesh to walk this world, known as Jesus.

It says the word was with God. That is not the same. What do you think?

 

[Magenta]

It says the word was with God. That is not the same. What do you think?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I think you butcher Scripture.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Yes.

 

[Magenta]

Yes.

You say yes but you mean no.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

You say yes but you mean no.

I am agreeing that you have it right according to the translation. But see here to get it more right.

John 1:1 TR - Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and God was the word.

 

[iamsoandso]

I don't see the word person here, or the idea either. That would have to be extrapolated if true.

lol, I realize you don't see it but the Jews he was speaking to fully understood that he had just stated he was God and took up stones to stone him because he said it(you just don't believe what Jesus said the same as they did not)... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/10-33.htm

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

lol, I realize you don't see it but the Jews he was speaking to fully understood that he had just stated he was God and took up stones to stone him because he said it(you just don't believe what Jesus said the same as they did not)... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/10-33.htm

Thank you. You understand me.

 

[Sipsey]

How can I say, “Your’e wasting your time with this one,” without saying-“Your’e wasting your time.”

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

How can I say, “Your’e wasting your time with this one,” without saying-“Your’e wasting your time.”

I don't know. I don't have a suggestion for you.

 

[iamsoandso]

Thank you. You understand me.

What I understand does not help you in these regards, Jesus is God.

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

What I understand does not help you in these regards Jesus is God.

I don't think the people got it right. They even wanted to stone Him!

 

[JacobMartinMertens]

What I understand does not help you in these regards, Jesus is God.

John 5:18 NASB20 - For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.