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Yes, the context does contain the stated command from Peter, who was indeed consistent with the gospel He knew from what was preached by John the Baptist and by Jesus, all aimed at Israel, not Gentiles nor the body of Christ that came into being after the fall of Israel and the beginning of the formation of the body of Christ with Paul as its very first member.
Good point, but it still doesn't equate to a commend for us today given that Paul never addressed it as a command from the Lord to us today.
Just want that to be understood by the other readers through this thread.
MM
Good point, but it still doesn't equate to a commend for us today given that Paul never addressed it as a command from the Lord to us today.
Just want that to be understood by the other readers through this thread.
MM
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This seems to be the naturally occurring question that arises from the realization that we are not under the requirement for performance-based salvation. The many, many religions who today demand performance-based salvation and retention of said salvation that they teach about, this is the outflow from that doctrinal basis that is to pervasive among the denominations and cults.
When you speak of behavior, that, to me, bring forth the requirement for performance. Behavior, most generally, plays into the realm of our efforts and conduct in relation to perceived moral standards, requirements and Law.
When Paul spoke of the only basis for our salvation through the Gospel of Grace today, he was careful to divorce it from anything to do with our "behavior" in the broadest sense of that term. Yes, we are indeed to be subject to the guidance and direction of Holy Spirit given that we are sealed by Holy Spirit upon the basis of our faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ on the third day, according to the scriptures, for our redemption and cleansing of our sins in the past and in the future.
So, what matters is what was placed upon them back then before the Gospel of Grace, and what it placed upon us today. That they are different doesn't differentiate any of us apart from the ancients as anyone being more or less beholden to moral conduct. They, at that time, were required to DO by their efforts given that they were not filled by Holy Spirit. We today, guided and sealed by Holy Spirit, will, by nature through the guidance of that same Holy Spirit, will conduct ourselves willingly, walking by faith, working out our salvation with fear and trembling, but not in the manner as is presumed by the those who have sold themselves out to the system of work-based salvation.
Does that adequately answer your question? If not, then I would have to ask about the basis and perspective from which you're asking the questions rather than trying to guess at it, given the plethora of variants so many harbor in their understanding about works-based salvation versus walking by faith and everything in between.
MM
When you speak of behavior, that, to me, bring forth the requirement for performance. Behavior, most generally, plays into the realm of our efforts and conduct in relation to perceived moral standards, requirements and Law.
When Paul spoke of the only basis for our salvation through the Gospel of Grace today, he was careful to divorce it from anything to do with our "behavior" in the broadest sense of that term. Yes, we are indeed to be subject to the guidance and direction of Holy Spirit given that we are sealed by Holy Spirit upon the basis of our faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ on the third day, according to the scriptures, for our redemption and cleansing of our sins in the past and in the future.
So, what matters is what was placed upon them back then before the Gospel of Grace, and what it placed upon us today. That they are different doesn't differentiate any of us apart from the ancients as anyone being more or less beholden to moral conduct. They, at that time, were required to DO by their efforts given that they were not filled by Holy Spirit. We today, guided and sealed by Holy Spirit, will, by nature through the guidance of that same Holy Spirit, will conduct ourselves willingly, walking by faith, working out our salvation with fear and trembling, but not in the manner as is presumed by the those who have sold themselves out to the system of work-based salvation.
Does that adequately answer your question? If not, then I would have to ask about the basis and perspective from which you're asking the questions rather than trying to guess at it, given the plethora of variants so many harbor in their understanding about works-based salvation versus walking by faith and everything in between.
MM
If I seal a bottle of wine until 2050 expecting a high quality matured vintage, does that guarantee that the wine will be good when I open it? If I put a failsafe motor in a vehicle that will function perfectly until 2050, does that guarantee that the driver will never be injured or killed in a car accident before 2050? We are given the Holy Spirit as a downpayment on the house until the day that the house becomes due for full possession . But if we present a vandalised house to the purchaser on the handover day, He can still legally opt out of completing the deal.
The problem I have with your metaphors is that they cascade out of control to the realities that govern this realm in the physical rather than to represent the Heavenly realm beyond this physical realm. I agree with you that we have an "earnest" of salvation, but the seal of Holy Spirit is not even hinted at as being something that is revocable, so beyond that I'm not understanding what you're getting at.
Are you saying that any truly saved individual can lose his salvation today?
MM
Are you saying that any truly saved individual can lose his salvation today?
MM
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Act 10:6 He [Peter] lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.
What ought Cornelius to do? And why ought he to do it?
So, are you saying that one can be saved without knowing the gospel? What was God's purpose, in your opinion, for having Cornelius hear the gospel?
What ought Cornelius to do? And why ought he to do it?
So, are you saying that one can be saved without knowing the gospel? What was God's purpose, in your opinion, for having Cornelius hear the gospel?