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Six hours now, & still not a single Radical gracer (HG) will answer my question.
There's a logical reason why..... they can't.
They never thought far enough in advance that someone would question it.
It's been proven there's a mile-wide hole in their doctrine. they cannot tell us how they grow in their relationship with God according to their doctrine.
Their silence is witness against them.
There's all of them, & just one of me.
I know I couldn't be that threatening to silence them if I tried.
All I've gotten so far are snide remarks from smart mouths who don't have an answer.
That will be all I will get. Just keep reading..... Silence or smart remarks.
There's a logical reason why..... they can't.
They never thought far enough in advance that someone would question it.
It's been proven there's a mile-wide hole in their doctrine. they cannot tell us how they grow in their relationship with God according to their doctrine.
Their silence is witness against them.
There's all of them, & just one of me.
I know I couldn't be that threatening to silence them if I tried.
All I've gotten so far are snide remarks from smart mouths who don't have an answer.
That will be all I will get. Just keep reading..... Silence or smart remarks.
how dose grace discern truth, given paul talking about gods truth, gods love , gods peace, etc
when were you told to discern sin.
Matthew 7: Judging Others
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
strange thing discerning , things you have to edit out your own life, before you can see clearly. the joy ..................lol
when were you told to discern sin.
Matthew 7: Judging Others
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
strange thing discerning , things you have to edit out your own life, before you can see clearly. the joy ..................lol
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Did you know these verses are about judging the fruits of false teachers? It's not about judging someones salvation or if they have been justified or not.
Read a little more through the thread.
But yours is the typical reaction and assumption.
And I find it ironic. everybody jumps on the idea that salvation is being judged and we can't do that!......but that is exactly what most churches teach. If we don't see morality and a life change from the outside,the inside was never changed. And we are being taught to judge someones salvation in just about every church in America.........But we know we can't admit it.
This thread is not about judging someones salvation(because we CAN'T), this thread is about judging someones DOCTRINES(FRUIT.)
Read a little more through the thread.
But yours is the typical reaction and assumption.
And I find it ironic. everybody jumps on the idea that salvation is being judged and we can't do that!......but that is exactly what most churches teach. If we don't see morality and a life change from the outside,the inside was never changed. And we are being taught to judge someones salvation in just about every church in America.........But we know we can't admit it.
This thread is not about judging someones salvation(because we CAN'T), this thread is about judging someones DOCTRINES(FRUIT.)
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1. I asked a very simple question. No insanity in that.
2. People who have argued for a few years in the BDF are usually pretty sure of what they believe. They have a lot of experience. They should have all the answers for the theology they fight for. They should know that they know.
3. These people ought to jump at the opportunity to share what they know to cement their beliefs in others' minds. I gave them a golden opportunity, & they ran.
Why?
2. People who have argued for a few years in the BDF are usually pretty sure of what they believe. They have a lot of experience. They should have all the answers for the theology they fight for. They should know that they know.
3. These people ought to jump at the opportunity to share what they know to cement their beliefs in others' minds. I gave them a golden opportunity, & they ran.
Why?
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I have to wonder sometimes if the reason behind this is fear. We judge other people. because we are in a constant attempt to test ourselves. Make sure we are ok. In judging others, we can feel better about ourselves. People hang out wiht people who like the same sins, and tend to judge others who do worse sins "Well at least I do not do that. That sinner".
I think many in the church do the same. If I can judge their salvation, As long as I do not do the sins they do. I must be ok. It is the byproduct of one who does not understand their position in christ in my view.