fruit and works.

[JIMBO43]

All those questions have been answered dozen's of times over the last 1 & 1/2 years that I have seen. They just mis-represent what is said and it is a total waste of time to interact with these types. It causes nothing but strife and division as the deceit is still there even when you explain what is truly being said.

To play on that merry-go-round is foolishness as they are just baiting others so that they can have a place to exhibit their malice and slander. Not falling for that foolishness anymore.

I simply ignore these types now until the Lord grants them repentance.

i can see where your fruits lie,,,, the they they they they,,,,nothing but cusses,,, ha and you have Gods statutes... of you want what for all theese people you cuss... i think your fruits are one of self gritifaction...and self righouse... i mean how dare you say i can not follow my sheperd....

 

[Grace777x70]

The sky is blue....

 

[Stephen63]

Six hours now, & still not a single Radical gracer (HG) will answer my question.

There's a logical reason why..... they can't.

They never thought far enough in advance that someone would question it.

It's been proven there's a mile-wide hole in their doctrine. they cannot tell us how they grow in their relationship with God according to their doctrine.

Their silence is witness against them.

There's all of them, & just one of me.

I know I couldn't be that threatening to silence them if I tried.

All I've gotten so far are snide remarks from smart mouths who don't have an answer.

That will be all I will get. Just keep reading..... Silence or smart remarks.

 

[tourist]

The sky is blue....

I think that it just appears to be blue, just like the sea. The sun is yellow though.

 

[wsblind]

i can see where your fruits lie,,,, the they they they they,,,,nothing but cusses,,, ha and you have Gods statutes... of you want what for all theese people you cuss... i think your fruits are one of self gritifaction...and self righouse... i mean how dare you say i can not follow my sheperd....

Your exactly why this thread is here. 2 accounts to deceive and push your false teachings.

 

[wsblind]

Six hours now, & still not a single Radical gracer (HG) will answer my question.

There's a logical reason why..... they can't.

They never thought far enough in advance that someone would question it.

It's been proven there's a mile-wide hole in their doctrine. they cannot tell us how they grow in their relationship with God according to their doctrine.

Their silence is witness against them.

There's all of them, & just one of me.

I know I couldn't be that threatening to silence them if I tried.

All I've gotten so far are snide remarks from smart mouths who don't have an answer.

That will be all I will get. Just keep reading..... Silence or smart remarks.

Can you stay below insanity to have a discussion?

You ask a question, and then answer it for yourself. What is the point of anyone else answering?

 

[royalscot]

New American Standard Bible
"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

What do you specifically look for to know them by their fruits?

If we are to know them by their fruits. What are the fruits you look for to discern the truth?

how dose grace discern truth, given paul talking about gods truth, gods love , gods peace, etc

when were you told to discern sin.

Matthew 7: Judging Others
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

strange thing discerning , things you have to edit out your own life, before you can see clearly. the joy ..................lol

 

[wsblind]

how dose grace discern truth, given paul talking about gods truth, gods love , gods peace, etc

when were you told to discern sin.

Matthew 7: Judging Others
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

strange thing discerning , things you have to edit out your own life, before you can see clearly. the joy ..................lol

Did you know these verses are about judging the fruits of false teachers? It's not about judging someones salvation or if they have been justified or not.

Read a little more through the thread.

But yours is the typical reaction and assumption.

And I find it ironic. everybody jumps on the idea that salvation is being judged and we can't do that!......but that is exactly what most churches teach. If we don't see morality and a life change from the outside,the inside was never changed. And we are being taught to judge someones salvation in just about every church in America.........But we know we can't admit it.


This thread is not about judging someones salvation(because we CAN'T), this thread is about judging someones DOCTRINES(FRUIT.)

 

[stonesoffire]

Six hours now, & still not a single Radical gracer (HG) will answer my question.

There's a logical reason why..... they can't.

They never thought far enough in advance that someone would question it.

It's been proven there's a mile-wide hole in their doctrine. they cannot tell us how they grow in their relationship with God according to their doctrine.

Their silence is witness against them.

There's all of them, & just one of me.

I know I couldn't be that threatening to silence them if I tried.

All I've gotten so far are snide remarks from smart mouths who don't have an answer.

That will be all I will get. Just keep reading..... Silence or smart remarks.

Ankle biter huh? lol If that's all I ever get called...will be fortunate.

Your problem is wanting doctrine when we offer life. "Tell me what to do and I will do it." Not much of the heart there.

 

[Stephen63]

Can you stay below insanity to have a discussion?

You ask a question, and then answer it for yourself. What is the point of anyone else answering?

1. I asked a very simple question. No insanity in that.
2. People who have argued for a few years in the BDF are usually pretty sure of what they believe. They have a lot of experience. They should have all the answers for the theology they fight for. They should know that they know.
3. These people ought to jump at the opportunity to share what they know to cement their beliefs in others' minds. I gave them a golden opportunity, & they ran.

Why?

 

[wsblind]

1. I asked a very simple question. No insanity in that.
2. People who have argued for a few years in the BDF are usually pretty sure of what they believe. They have a lot of experience. They should have all the answers for the theology they fight for. They should know that they know.
3. These people ought to jump at the opportunity to share what they know to cement their beliefs in others' minds. I gave them a golden opportunity, & they ran.

Why?

I think it's because you don't pay attention. MANY have tried to give you what they believe and their nuances of what they believe Grace is.

But you always default back to what you believe and force that upon them. SO all of us have given up trying to answer your questions.

 

[Stephen63]

I think it's because you don't pay attention. MANY have tried to give you what they believe and their nuances of what they believe Grace is.

But you always default back to what you believe and force that upon them. SO all of us have given up trying to answer your questions.

Everybody's reading, and they know nobody gave me an answer.

I kept asking, & nobody is saying anything.

All you're doing is what others have done in the past..... psychological cleanup of a bad situation.

 

[wsblind]

Everybody's reading, and they know nobody gave me an answer.

I kept asking, & nobody is saying anything.

All you're doing is what others have done in the past..... psychological cleanup of a bad situation.

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

 

[Stephen63]

Ankle biter huh? lol If that's all I ever get called...will be fortunate.

Your problem is wanting doctrine when we offer life. "Tell me what to do and I will do it." Not much of the heart there.

I see you're doing your "job".

I'm putting you on ignore.

 

[wsblind]

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

22 minutes and crickets.

 

[wsblind]

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

26 minutes and crickets.

 

[wsblind]

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

42 minutes and crickets.

 

[wsblind]

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

1hr and crickets.

 

[wsblind]

Go back to your post. Where is the definitive question? I only see the definitive answers ,from you, in it.

What is your question? Simple and straight forward. And don't answer it for me.

2 hrs and crickets.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Did you know these verses are about judging the fruits of false teachers? It's not about judging someones salvation or if they have been justified or not.

Read a little more through the thread.

But yours is the typical reaction and assumption.

And I find it ironic. everybody jumps on the idea that salvation is being judged and we can't do that!......but that is exactly what most churches teach. If we don't see morality and a life change from the outside,the inside was never changed. And we are being taught to judge someones salvation in just about every church in America.........But we know we can't admit it.


This thread is not about judging someones salvation(because we CAN'T), this thread is about judging someones DOCTRINES(FRUIT.)

I have to wonder sometimes if the reason behind this is fear. We judge other people. because we are in a constant attempt to test ourselves. Make sure we are ok. In judging others, we can feel better about ourselves. People hang out wiht people who like the same sins, and tend to judge others who do worse sins "Well at least I do not do that. That sinner".

I think many in the church do the same. If I can judge their salvation, As long as I do not do the sins they do. I must be ok. It is the byproduct of one who does not understand their position in christ in my view.