Do Jews Have a Divine Right in the Promised Land?
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Drett,
Just to add a few things to Zone's post. Jesus said He is the way,the truth and the life and NO man can come to the Father but by Him. He is the good shepherd,the bread of life,the light of the world,the gate,the vine. He is the resurrection and life and he who believes in Him will life,EVEN though he dies,and whoever believes in Him will NEVER die. He is the one who can give us life. He sees it all and HE will bring justice in His time and His way. But the real question is what will you do with Jesus?
Just to add a few things to Zone's post. Jesus said He is the way,the truth and the life and NO man can come to the Father but by Him. He is the good shepherd,the bread of life,the light of the world,the gate,the vine. He is the resurrection and life and he who believes in Him will life,EVEN though he dies,and whoever believes in Him will NEVER die. He is the one who can give us life. He sees it all and HE will bring justice in His time and His way. But the real question is what will you do with Jesus?
The sad part of all of this is one really big thing is forgotten,Where does God ever give us the right to JUSTIFY going against His commandments? Does God's promise of land mean that someone can turn around and JUSTIFY going against the seventh commandment (8th commandment depending on the list you use) Thou shalt NOT STEAL. Is it any wonder some Muslims see us as being the "Great Satan"? They see us saying we believe God and believe in the Bible yet they see us backing theft as if that is somehow OK with God. Is it any wonder many see us as being hypocrites?
Yes I believe justice will be done but not until we get our house into order.
There is a prophecy concerning how the Muslims are treated today. It fits the current situation.
The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people, when eating, invite others to share their food.”
Someone asked, “Will that be because of our small numbers at that time?”
He replied, “No. You will be numerous at that time: but you will be froth and scum like that carried down by a torrent (of water), and Allah will take the fear of you from the hearts of your enemy and cast al-wahn into your hearts.”
Someone asked, “O Messenger of Allah, what is al-wahn?”
He replied, “Love of this world and hatred of death.”
[An authentic hadith recorded by Abu Dawud and Ahmad]
Froth on water goes where the water leads it and just a small breeze will cause it to disintegrate. It has no substance. The prophet pbuh, when Islam was at the start of its 1000 year golden age, predicted the current state of affairs.
No use looking outside for blame. That is what weak minded people do. The fate of the muslims are in our own hands.
“Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.” (Qur’an, 13:11)
We have too many hot heads at the moment trying to force a change. Our conditions will not change until we change ourselves. We need to go back to basics and put our trust in God. We need to wake up and return to God.
Though I blame Muslims departure from God for the state we find ourselves, it should not stop me for chasing justice and transparency on the crimes on humanity that are occurring in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen amongst others.
There is a prophecy concerning how the Muslims are treated today. It fits the current situation.
The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people, when eating, invite others to share their food.”
Someone asked, “Will that be because of our small numbers at that time?”
He replied, “No. You will be numerous at that time: but you will be froth and scum like that carried down by a torrent (of water), and Allah will take the fear of you from the hearts of your enemy and cast al-wahn into your hearts.”
Someone asked, “O Messenger of Allah, what is al-wahn?”
He replied, “Love of this world and hatred of death.”
[An authentic hadith recorded by Abu Dawud and Ahmad]
Froth on water goes where the water leads it and just a small breeze will cause it to disintegrate. It has no substance. The prophet pbuh, when Islam was at the start of its 1000 year golden age, predicted the current state of affairs.
No use looking outside for blame. That is what weak minded people do. The fate of the muslims are in our own hands.
“Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.” (Qur’an, 13:11)
We have too many hot heads at the moment trying to force a change. Our conditions will not change until we change ourselves. We need to go back to basics and put our trust in God. We need to wake up and return to God.
Though I blame Muslims departure from God for the state we find ourselves, it should not stop me for chasing justice and transparency on the crimes on humanity that are occurring in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen amongst others.
I thought I would help you out a bit. Do you take a video confession of an Israeli Veteran instead ?
"As a child we were told the land is empty .. .the land was never empty".
10:30 mark is a good place to start for someone like your self who is seeking the truth but don't have much time.
‫עדותו של אמנון נוימן, חייל בפלמ"ח, Testimony of Amnon Neumann‬‎ - YouTube
Happy truth hunting.
"As a child we were told the land is empty .. .the land was never empty".
10:30 mark is a good place to start for someone like your self who is seeking the truth but don't have much time.
‫עדותו של אמנון נוימן, חייל בפלמ"ח, Testimony of Amnon Neumann‬‎ - YouTube
Happy truth hunting.
The law, not the commandments, are referenced here. Perhaps a small amount of meditation on the following just may bring a person to know the difference between the Israel on our maps and the Israel of Yahweh.
Gal 4:21
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22
For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23
But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27
For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Gal 4:28
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Gal 4:21
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22
For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23
But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27
For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Gal 4:28
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
The original punishment was 430 years not 360. They had already served 70 so they had 360 left. Thus it throws out all your calcs by 490 years which would line up with the year 2438. Nice try no cigar.
The thing about being punished is at the end of it there needs to be repentance. How can you become the chosen again without repentance ?
Talmud
Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen. Christians are boiled in dung
This is what the sons of the free are stating. I cringe to see Jesus spoken about like that.
The thing about being punished is at the end of it there needs to be repentance. How can you become the chosen again without repentance ?
Talmud
Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen. Christians are boiled in dung
This is what the sons of the free are stating. I cringe to see Jesus spoken about like that.
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You being a Muslim and saying that and yet how many Christians are saying the same? Jesus is suppose to be our Lord and savior,and yet many of the same people who will come down so hard on other religions will never once say so much as a peep about this,and will willingly walk hand in hand with the ones who say that about Jesus. The irony and hypocrisy of it all. It makes one wonder does it not?
There are many who love the Lord yet deluded somewhat by affiliations with theologies of man, denominations, all of which claim to be based on the Holy Scriptures yet vary from each other to the point of schisms.
This makes obvious, providing the Holy Scriptures are true, and I believe they are, that man has drifted in many ways from the teachings intended for the two flocks of Yeshua, for He is the Teacher of the gospel which He lived, suffered, and died to give to us all.
The spirit of apostasy had already crept into the assemblies during Paul's time, and it is no small wonder, since apostasy is foretold to abound by the time our Master returns. This apostasy will not spring up overnight, it has been ongoing since the time of the Apostles, and today it has spread around the globe.
Blessed be all who strive to please Yeshua in spirit and truth, amen.
This makes obvious, providing the Holy Scriptures are true, and I believe they are, that man has drifted in many ways from the teachings intended for the two flocks of Yeshua, for He is the Teacher of the gospel which He lived, suffered, and died to give to us all.
The spirit of apostasy had already crept into the assemblies during Paul's time, and it is no small wonder, since apostasy is foretold to abound by the time our Master returns. This apostasy will not spring up overnight, it has been ongoing since the time of the Apostles, and today it has spread around the globe.
Blessed be all who strive to please Yeshua in spirit and truth, amen.